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Ange in or out?

Ange in or out?

  • In

    Votes: 74 42.5%

  • Out

    Votes: 100 57.5%
  • Total voters
    174
DeanoAustin said:
Does "you don't know what you're doing" fall into the abuse category?
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Finney Is Back said:
FA Cup, League Cup, Europa League. I have no idea how any supporter of Tottenham would turn their nose up at winning any of those trophies.
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It's all hypothetical. Let;s get to that stage and see what we would turn our noses up at. I know that finishing 14/15 every season, even if we won a cup, would mean that most matches would be defeats in a season. We know what that feels like....
 
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It's all pretty embarrassing now at all levels...Ange has brought a lot of this on himself and as others have said, is showing he's not got what it takes to succeed (or even just compete tbh) at this level.

I had respect/sympathy when he was owning the problems, now he's not acting any different from the great Captains of Deflecto like Mourinho.

Managers at Spurs have been sacked for far far less poor showings
 
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Lilbaz said:
No.
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To be honest, I hate the personal abuse stuff and absolutely detest it when it's anonymous and online. That's levels of cowardly that boil my tinkle.

I always tell the story of a lad a few down from me who has a spacegoat every year (it's Johnson this year). He once shouted "Eric Dier, you're fudging brick". Now that makes no sense to me. It's not helpful, it's not true and it's unpleasant. But does he have a right to do it as a season ticket holder? Probably. Dier didn't hear him and, even if he did, I'd expect him to just let it wash over him. Makes the fan a roosterwomble IMO but there are many of them about.
 
As Ive said before (yawn) 3 things push Anges buttons...one of them is telling him how to suck eggs, ie don't question his ability.

He's an emotional guy post match as demonstrated by his surly/spikey interviews when we lose and his bullish/arrogant interviews when we win.

He's loose with his tongue either way in those moments when he's still processing what's gone on. It's undoubtedly a learned skill to keep a lid on it.

The problem he has, is in the midweek press chat he's back to being composed and affable (in the main) BUT (as pointed out by some) this leads to mixed messaging, not least to our fans.

He wants us to be behind the team and give full support but having these run-ins with supporters isn't going to help that.

Ironically will still have something to play for this season BUT I'm getting the feeling that any hope of EL success might be sabotaged (on both sides) before we know it.

All fans can do is get behind the team if they don't like the manager BUT it is mighty weird aiming for a trophy without the manager being part of the 'in-group'
 
DeanoAustin said:
To be honest, I hate the personal abuse stuff and absolutely detest it when it's anonymous and online. That's levels of cowardly that boil my tinkle.

I always tell the story of a lad a few down from me who has a spacegoat every year (it's Johnson this year). He once shouted "Eric Dier, you're fudging brick". Now that makes no sense to me. It's not helpful, it's not true and it's unpleasant. But does he have a right to do it as a season ticket holder? Probably. Dier didn't hear him and, even if he did, I'd expect him to just let it wash over him. Makes the fan a roosterwomble IMO but there are many of them about.
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I'd love to have 90min fly on the wall coverage of me at every Spurs game I've attended since 1986....sooooo interesting (and revealing) watching it back. I'm sure.😎
 
Bedfordspurs said:
Possibly
The video doesn’t show that clearly and IMO i would side with the benefit of the doubt but… his interview says the opposite even if it backs up his actions
The blinking and his reaction gives a lot away
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Don't we spend enough time already giving Ange the "benefit of the doubt"?

There is never one isolated thing that is black and white about the guy. However, there is just an endless list of things that cause huge debate. For me, that in itself is the biggest indicator that something is fundamentally wrong. You need a spreadsheet to keep track.
 
Muttley said:
Don't we spend enough time already giving Ange the "benefit of the doubt"?

There is never one isolated thing that is black and white about the guy. However, there is just an endless list of things that cause huge debate. For me, that in itself is the biggest indicator that something is fundamentally wrong. You need a spreadsheet to keep track.
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Maybe. I think judging his actions that can be seen many ways is possibly unfair
His interview though was clear
 
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