parklane1
Tony Galvin
I did not mean to be rude mate and i am sorry if you feel i was, not like you to be so precious
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American politics
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I did not mean to be rude mate and i am sorry if you feel i was, not like you to be so precious
He won't build the wall.
He might build some wall, but there are plenty of articles out there describing just how prohibitively expensive acquiring the land and building it would be. The parts that have been built have cost a ridiculous amount and that's all the low-hanging fruit.
milo
Jack L. Jones
I forgot to include this.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ctical-reality-president-latest-a7550601.html
milo
Jack L. Jones
I think that you are right. It would be impossible, take too long, cost too much and be impossible to police once it is in place. It will be build it a handful of places where it can easily be picked up by the media.
I think the executive order says "impenetrable physical barrier" or something like that.
The point is, he is signing off on the things he said he was going to do, but many people assumed that he wouldn't be doing these things and it was just rhetoric, which is what I'm talking about re. Parklane's comments.
parklane1
Tony Galvin
My mistake, it was in the other politics thread (I just searched for your username and they keyword 'wall'
http://www.glory-glory.co.uk/community/threads/politics-politics-politics.6328/page-315#post-865002
You seem like a reasonable fella. Now if you heard him talk pre-election and decided that he didn't really mean what he said about building the wall, who is to say that many people who voted for him thought along the same lines?
To be honest, I thought he was mostly rhetoric myself, I thought he was just playing to the gallery to get elected. The worrying thing is that he may actually turn out to be a proper nutter.
I am a reasonable fella honest, and i have no love for Trump either. But maybe i was not clear enough in my post in the other thread. The wall is already there and has been since Bush's day i would be amazed if those who take such a interest in American elections would not know about that. Or have they just took a interest because they were so sure Trump would not win and are looking for someone to blame.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-border-wall_us_5888a9c3e4b0441a8f71f08e
It’s not clear what the wall would actually look like ― the order says a wall “shall mean a contiguous, physical wall or other similarly secure, contiguous, and impassable physical barrier,” which leaves open the possibility of the administration simply adding to the 650 miles of fencing that already exists, even though Trump has previously said it is inadequate.
I think we underestimate how loopy Trump is. We'll re-visit when the construction starts!
wiziwig
Steed Malbranque
Her tweets suggest she supports Sharia Law ...She also has connections to Hamas...
This was a march calling itself, The Woman's March......But it's anything but inclusive of all women ...
Women who supported Trump were told to stay away.
As too, were women with conservative political and social values
Pro Life women were also told to stay away.
Women - Muslim women too, who object to the oppression of women in the Middle East, Asia and African countries. The oppression of Muslim women the world over.
It were not inclusive so therefore it were not a women's march but more a cultural marxist, pro islamist, anti West, feminazi white male hating march.
She's one muslim woman, with one viewpoint. Her speech was a five minute one and she chose not to mention the suppression of women other than in America. No alarm bells for you?
You really believe that that there are no other muslim women with a different viewpoint that speak up with regards to the oppression of Muslim women?
I can assure your there are plenty - they simply weren't allowed a share of the platform.
I wanted them on that platform, you didn't and neither did the march organisers!
She probably doesn't, but she's a fudging disgusting excuse for a human being.
Constantly pushing the standard muslim anti-semitic line, refusing to support any deal with Israel that involves discussions/negotiation (because to her, peace would be bad, as a one trick pony without a trick is just walking glue) criticising the Charlie Hebdo cartoonists, preferring to announce to the world that the CIA is part of some plot to blow up its own citizens, rather than admit to another Islamic terrorist plot, the list of standard, dumbfudge, baseless opinions goes on....
She and people like her are the arse cancer of society.
monkeybarry
Jack Jull
I second that
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Quick fact check (same same but different) :
http://heavy.com/news/2017/01/barac...-trump-jimmy-carter-iran-iranian-immigration/
put a break on refugees
"While Obama did halt the refugee program, it did not impact green card holders, or anyone with a visa. It also did not affect refugees who had already gone through the vetting process. Trump’s travel ban barred entry to the United States to those groups, causing a chaotic situation for travelers from the seven affected countries and leading to protests at airports across the country."
Grays_1890
Chris Jones
We go round in circles because you can't accept that I have taken a step back from the whole media and public outcry and able to make a judgement of my own on someone.
As far as I am concerned people can judge Trump however they wise that sup to them, where I come from I judge people from the same set of standards and for that reason I believe the reality of Trump is far less harmful than Bush, Obama, Nixon. I am not saying that won't change further down the line but as I said previously, I don't believe a 90 day travel ban is comparable to the Iraq war, Vietnam, Watergate etc, that just me, I don't expect people to think the same I just view the world in a different way.
Grays_1890
Chris Jones
As of Sunday night Trumps ban does not include green card holders
Perhaps if he had of thought things through prior to signing the order he wouldn't have had such an adverse reaction. Cant say he did the same as Obama and got a worse reaction when its only the protests that made him change his decision. --( or anyone with a visa. It also did not affect refugees who had already gone through the vetting process.)
It is positive that he didn't dig in and relaxed when presented with arguments.
monkeybarry
Jack Jull
With legal challenge that went against him. Which is a very different thing.
Craig_J
Eidur Gudjohnsen
Seems like he hasn't thought anything through and is just winging it. Will be suprised if he ever gets a second term, especially at his age, but guess none of us expected him to get any term at all.
Grays_1890
Chris Jones
Grays_1890
Chris Jones
All depends how you judge it. I can't help think people are changing the reporting landscape for Trump, for example many presidents have made wrong decisions full stop was that winging it? If a past president made a decision and then adapted it to make an improvement I am sure people would be saying "Wow what a man"
I guarantee that most major policies made by past presidents were not even known let alone discussed by 90% of people and all of a sudden ever policy is highlighted and everyone's an expert. Its the worlds biggest overreaction if you ask me.