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American politics

parklane1 said:
I would agree with you, however did Obama not introduce ( or try to) the very same thing earlier. If he did its funny how its brought up as a stick to beat Trump with by some.
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I know you are a Brexit man but I can't believe you are softening also towards the Trump!
 
K.D.D.D.D.Soc said:
I'm with him on this one but why stop a Muslims, All internet warriors should be held to account for their ravings. I'm all for free speech but the internet allows this to be abused by millions of cowards, racist and sociopaths.
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Let's be clear with this. You are happy with people being racially profiled returning to their home country and having to hand over the passwords to their personal social media and email accounts.
 
milo said:
Let's be clear with this. You are happy with people being racially profiled returning to their home country and having to hand over the passwords to their personal social media and email accounts.
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I know the is that law on the internet that means you have lost an argument when you mention hitler, but honestly he is acting just like the Nazis, as I said the other day I really think the is going to be riots in those cities soon.
 
LutonSpurs said:
Lets stop all people who fit Dylan Roofs profile. And all people who fit school shooters profiles. And Anthony Mcveighs profile. Let's do Anders Breivik while we are doing profiling of nutters.
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A good point, I actually believe in preemptive measures, so I think teachers should be trained to look out for loners and potential trouble makers, just like how people in social services are trained to spot which clients might be at risk of being targeted by loan sharks, Muslim clerics could be trained to look out for any young muslims going radical.

But all of these points, I think the best results are when it is voluntary and you engage with the teachers and clerics. I am no where near a liberal, but if you start alienating people it only gets worse.
 
Danishfurniturelover said:
A good point, I actually believe in preemptive measures, so I think teachers should be trained to look out for loners and potential trouble makers, just like how people in social services are trained to spot which clients might be at risk of being targeted by loan sharks, Muslim clerics could be trained to look out for any young muslims going radical.

But all of these points, I think the best results are when it is voluntary and you engage with the teachers and clerics. I am no where near a liberal, but if you start alienating people it only gets worse.
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Engaging in deradcialising people who show signs of radicalisation is necessary. Like prevent is trying to do very badly. But prevent in its idea is essential. It just needs to be done properly. And how is a great question.
 
LutonSpurs said:
Let's go further. Let's strip the civil liberties of the million who like the Britain First Facebook page.
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Was just gonna post that. How about people on the friends lists of those who 'like' that page (only the white people of course).

I feel safer already.
 
LutonSpurs said:
Engaging in deradcialising people who show signs of radicalisation is necessary. Like prevent is trying to do very badly. But prevent in its idea is essential. It just needs to be done properly. And how is a great question.
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I think trying harder not to treat people differently goes a long way. A slightly different angle on profiling, but for example, if the cops were constantly stopping me because of what I looked like, I might start to think they were all qunts. And if they came in to my community wanting help, information, I'd be less inclined to help them. And I might start to feel like I agreed with people who held more extreme views on the police.
 
the dza said:
Was just gonna post that. How about people on the friends lists of those who 'like' that page (only the white people of course).

I feel safer already.
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The killer had a leaflet about Brexit in his bag. Let's get every Brexit voter and profile them. Potential killers. The lot of them.
 
the dza said:
I think trying harder not to treat people differently goes a long way. A slightly different angle on profiling, but for example, if the cops were constantly stopping me because of what I looked like, I might start to think they were all qunts. And if they came in to my community wanting help, information, I'd be less inclined to help them. And I might start to feel like I agreed with people who held more extreme views on the police.
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If you alienate people by selective treatment then you are risking creating the problem you are trying to solve. Why I think prevent is awful. It has fostered a climate of distrust in my community. There has to be a better way to engage.
 
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