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2022 World Cup... gonna ruin the European Season

Are BBC and ITV under commercial contractual agreement to employ all the Sky Sports personnel between them. It’s weird seeing the Sky presenters across BBC and ITV. I assume that there’s an agreement in place.
 
thfcsteff said:
I wholly agree. The way Qatar treats migrant workers and the LGBTQ+ community is a real problem. It is also, for me, a cultural issue in Qatar's case, specifically a result of an extremist approach to life as dictated by an extremist viewpoint. I must take VERY clear I no more see Qatar's issues as being 'muslim or Islam' as I would see the US's huge issues with black people, racism and abuse of migrant workers (anyone doubting this, read up on Greely, Texas and slaughterhouse employment to get a taste) as being 'Christian' issues. Qatar is governed by an extremist rule/faction. I firmly believe the onus lies with FIFA not to take such money. On the protestor side, I hope the brave voices bringing light to practices we find inhumane will apply LOTS of pressure on the US (for example), as there are plenty of abuses which happen there too.

The difference, of course, is the freedom to protest and live the way you wish; it is why I think regardless of how abhorrent we might find such beliefs, if a country has established that as their operating modus, it is on FIFA to NOT engage/financially support said-nation.

As a football supporter, my hypocrisy is sadly guaranteed. I dislike slave labour yet I wear Spurs and England Nike gear. I think in the modern game, it is pretty tough NOT to be a football hypocrite. I'd say in a western society, it is pretty difficult not to be a hypocrite, as we are all 'benefitting' from someone else's cheap labour and abuse somewhere. Sad but true. The best we can surely do (IMO anyway) is make as many positive choices to support change in such conditions as possible. Personally? I think a great start would be to see Nike lessen their profit margin on a 90 quid shirt (which must surely be somewhere at the 800% mark) in order to see some of that money filter back to the workforce. I would support a ban on their/any firms products for that. Sadly, it is utopian thought. Thus I will do the best I can to support where I can...

Apologies for the long-winded answer ( nothing new! ) and yes we are agreeing and these are great conversations IMO.
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Personally I don't think these issues can be disconnected from religion. It's far from the only factor, but I think it's a factor. Even if "just" used as a justification by those in power to those without power those justifications are very useful in for those in power.

Definitely agree with everything else going on. Part of why I like the protests/noise that I think it will make future hosts, possibly even FIFA at least think twice. They want to present the picture perfect version of the tournament and country, protests makes that a lot more difficult.

Your points on being a hypocrite are just spot on.
 
indospurs said:
muahahahahaaa

golden boot anyone?
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You know after that dull first half where Brazil were comfortable but hardly created anything I was fully expecting Richarlison to get subbed for one of the many other forwards Brazil had and for G.Jesus to come on and inevitably score and begin a tossfest of how he should've started instead etc, followed by Richie being stuck on the bench for the remaining games!
...Then Brazil sparked into life 2nd half and Richie got his brace and he's the talk of the tournament.. funny ol' game ain't it?
 
dingdongo said:
You know after that dull first half where Brazil were comfortable but hardly created anything I was fully expecting Richarlison to get subbed for one of the many other forwards Brazil had and for G.Jesus to come on and inevitably score and begin a tossfest of how he should've started instead etc, followed by Richie being stuck on the bench for the remaining games!
...Then Brazil sparked into life 2nd half and Richie got his brace and he's the talk of the tournament.. funny ol' game ain't it?
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I think those fine margins are the life of a striker like him playing for a team like that. At times he doesn't get the service, everyone else has the ball and are obviously really good so they shine, he fades.

At other times he'll get great service and he'll have a great impact.

I think Brazil really benefit from a striker like him, and that's why he's in the team. Even with quiet spells I think he would have gotten games. But now of course he's made himself a nailed on starter.
 
Big question is the service Richarlison gets, Neymas has had an ankle knock, same as our 'Arry i'm guessing. Hopefully not serious, they need him to lead and be a spark

But, Jesus is a good player too, he'll be important to unlock other teams as they progress, maybe he can create space for Richy to attack
 
indospurs said:
Big question is the service Richarlison gets, Neymas has had an ankle knock, same as our 'Arry i'm guessing. Hopefully not serious, they need him to lead and be a spark

But, Jesus is a good player too, he'll be important to unlock other teams as they progress, maybe he can create space for Richy to attack
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They've certainly have a deep squad.
 
Wales v Iran is a toothless battle. Too hot perhaps?

Wales look like they are playing extra time already half an hour in and absolutely full of mistakes.
 
dingdongo said:
You know after that dull first half where Brazil were comfortable but hardly created anything I was fully expecting Richarlison to get subbed for one of the many other forwards Brazil had and for G.Jesus to come on and inevitably score and begin a tossfest of how he should've started instead etc, followed by Richie being stuck on the bench for the remaining games!
...Then Brazil sparked into life 2nd half and Richie got his brace and he's the talk of the tournament.. funny ol' game ain't it?
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I think it will be a massive sliding doors moment for him. I'm genuinely expecting stories of £200m bids for him from Barca and PSG come the summer. Everyone will want the new Ronaldo (Nazario)
 
glasgowspur said:
Good interview with cliff jones on radio 4 this morning, love how the players from that era all sound like absolute gentlemen.
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That's good to hear. He's always been a brilliant ambassador and raconteur, but the last time I heard him talk was a bit of a car crash. He was maybe just tired, but he was for the first time starting to show his age (he seemed confused, was repeating himself etc). So it's great news if he's doing better again.
 
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