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2022 World Cup... gonna ruin the European Season

Grays_1890 said:
Whats happened with ticket sales for this? I read they have sold record numbers but I just not sure I believe it and logistically I just struggle to get my head round it. 3m people in the country means the natural numbers are not there for locals to fill the games (a small % of the 3m will be interested in the games). There are not enough hotel rooms in Qatar (Approx 40,000) to host the numbers they are talking and logistically if you were commuting in from say Dubai or Abu Dhabi for the games as say an England fan thats a logisitcal/expensive exercise.

WHat I am saying in short is, they cant have the numbers they would expect for a world cup that say a Paris, Munich, London would have for example? Surely
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Aren't they just paying all their immigrant workers to go to the games and pretend to be fans?
 
A Norwegian journalist crew were arrested last year when they were trying to do some reporting down there. It's going to be some brick show! What a joke.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-reporting-labourers-qatar-world-cup-arrested

And the head crook of the crooks, Gianni Infantino, going out in a press conference today saying how he "feels gay" and "feels like a migrant worker", hahaha, what an absolute joke! He could easily be the star of the next Despicable Me, you could just base the whole character on him. Absolute joke of a man, Fifa is a joke of a mafia organization, and this whole World Cup, and the three before it, absolute shams! fudge me, football is going under, isn't it.


I usually feel buzzed about a world cup coming up, but have absolutely no interest in this one.
 
Daisuk said:
A Norwegian journalist crew were arrested last year when they were trying to do some reporting down there. It's going to be some brick show! What a joke.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-reporting-labourers-qatar-world-cup-arrested

And the head crook of the crooks, Gianni Infantino, going out in a press conference today saying how he "feels gay" and "feels like a migrant worker", hahaha, what an absolute joke! He could easily be the star of the next Despicable Me, you could just base the whole character on him. Absolute joke of a man, Fifa is a joke of a mafia organization, and this whole World Cup, and the three before it, absolute shams! fudge me, football is going under, isn't it.

I usually feel buzzed about a world cup coming up, but have absolutely no interest in this one.
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You have to love how people defend it though too

"You have to respect their beliefs"

Its the weakest defense of anything I have heard, being homosexual is not a belief its a right, to pass bigoted views off as a belief and asking to respect that view, do people know how that actually makes them sound?

And to pass it off as ok because the rest of the world has issues is the biggest cop out of the lot. Yeh the world has issues but you can't equivalence there being a few odd balls around with having a firm, law written belief that we should suppress freedom of sexual choices and a free press.
 
Grays_1890 said:
You have to love how people defend it though too

"You have to respect their beliefs"

Its the weakest defense of anything I have heard, being homosexual is not a belief its a right, to pass bigoted views off as a belief and asking to respect that view, do people know how that actually makes them sound?

And to pass it off as ok because the rest of the world has issues is the biggest cop out of the lot. Yeh the world has issues but you can't equivalence there being a few odd balls around with having a firm, law written belief that we should suppress freedom of sexual choices and a free press.
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Agreed. An ex of one of my best friends is a (liberal) muslim, and we've had lots of talks about harmful beliefs and practices in Islam, and I know she agrees with me on a lot of these issues, but being so ingrained in a muslim community, even in liberal Norway, there's a social control element there that you can't ignore - she would always contain herself and watch her words whenever other muslims were part of the conversation (one of her friends even argued for how music is sinful and shouldn't be listened to, fudge me). I think it's problematic that you've got big groups of people in a democratic country afraid to speak their minds when people of similar beliefs are in the room, but here we are, and if you dare speak up about it, people will call you an islamophobe or whatever. I'm a very left leaning liberal, I would say tolerant, guy - but I will never agree with belief systems limiting the liberty of people to be who they are (ie be homosexual) - nothing good will ever come out of systems like that, and they simply need to be reformed for society to go forward. That's kind of off-topic, but relatable to the discussions about Quatar - I don't think we should ever accept homophobia or other harmful ways of social control of individuals in any way or form. Believe in your GHod as much as you have to, but don't shove it down other people's throats and pass it off as your right to express your belief or whatever - it's just bigotry, plain and simple, upheld by a powerful controlling system. It's sad to see.

It's obviously a travesty that Quatar got the World Cup in the first place, but I think we can expect stories like this one to keep popping up over the next few weeks - the spectacle isn't going to be played out on the pitches.
 
Daisuk said:
Agreed. An ex of one of my best friends is a (liberal) muslim, and we've had lots of talks about harmful beliefs and practices in Islam, and I know she agrees with me on a lot of these issues, but being so ingrained in a muslim community, even in liberal Norway, there's a social control element there that you can't ignore - she would always contain herself and watch her words whenever other muslims were part of the conversation (one of her friends even argued for how music is sinful and shouldn't be listened to, fudge me). I think it's problematic that you've got big groups of people in a democratic country afraid to speak their minds when people of similar beliefs are in the room, but here we are, and if you dare speak up about it, people will call you an islamophobe or whatever. I'm a very left leaning liberal, I would say tolerant, guy - but I will never agree with belief systems limiting the liberty of people to be who they are (ie be homosexual) - nothing good will ever come out of systems like that, and they simply need to be reformed for society to go forward. That's kind of off-topic, but relatable to the discussions about Quatar - I don't think we should ever accept homophobia or other harmful ways of social control of individuals in any way or form. Believe in your GHod as much as you have to, but don't shove it down other people's throats and pass it off as your right to express your belief or whatever - it's just bigotry, plain and simple, upheld by a powerful controlling system. It's sad to see.

It's obviously a travesty that Quatar got the World Cup in the first place, but I think we can expect stories like this one to keep popping up over the next few weeks - the spectacle isn't going to be played out on the pitches.
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And TBH I have no issue with people having religious beliefs its when they translate to an "anti" or a "hate" and become be harmful to real humans, thats where I have issues.

If we are allowing hate to continue to exist because its under the veil of religion we may as well turn a blind eye to bible wielding nutters in the US with pillowcases on their head burning crosses in peoples front gardens.
 
Grays_1890 said:
You have to love how people defend it though too

"You have to respect their beliefs"

Its the weakest defense of anything I have heard, being homosexual is not a belief its a right, to pass bigoted views off as a belief and asking to respect that view, do people know how that actually makes them sound?

And to pass it off as ok because the rest of the world has issues is the biggest cop out of the lot. Yeh the world has issues but you can't equivalence there being a few odd balls around with having a firm, law written belief that we should suppress freedom of sexual choices and a free press.
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Is ok to be a racist if that's your genuine belief?
 
Grays_1890 said:
And TBH I have no issue with people having religious beliefs its when they translate to an "anti" or a "hate" and become be harmful to real humans, thats where I have issues.

If we are allowing hate to continue to exist because its under the veil of religion we may as well turn a blind eye to bible wielding nutters in the US with pillowcases on their head burning crosses in peoples front gardens.
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Yes, you said what I wanted to say with a lot less words, haha! 100% agree. :)
 
Jordinho said:
Aren't they just paying all their immigrant workers to go to the games and pretend to be fans?
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They're probably promised their passports back if they cheer loud enough. Could be why they were taken away in the first place.
 
K.D.D.D.D.Soc said:
Is ok to be a racist if that's your genuine belief?
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I don't believe so but you cant stop people believing what they want behind their closed doors, my point is the line between belief and real harm has been crossed here and that's where people should make a greater stand.

The idea that footballs somehow bigger as a spectacle than human rights is the biggest joke of this whole thing, the vast array of excuses for people not to take a real stand just shows up modern society for what it is and that's just a society of token efforts in reality

There is a r3al difference between a religious nutter believing something thats both bigotted and restricted and it being written into law that if you are gay that you are effectively excluded from life and rights as an actual human being .
 
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