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Roberto De Zerbi *OFFICIAL*

Silly McSilly Face said:
Look right. I've been thinking about this. And it could all go horribly wrong. It may not go horribly wrong but simply be too late in this season, BUT....appreciating that some have an issue with who they perceive him to be.....I can't think of a coach that i personally feel bought into in terms of fit with the club since, well, Poch. The passion, the DARE, the risk taking, the football, the top level experience, the siege mentality, the f*ck you, but also the brotherhood....while it may seem unsavoury to some the fact he took time to relate to a troubled person and see if there was something he could reignite....you know, that is what this squad needs. Its what we fans need. Its what the club needs. Someone to take us with them on a journey (hopefully not to Blackburn Rovers away)...
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I certainly appreciate your perspective, and you say some very accurate things... and (by proxy) am forced to adhere to it because he is our manager. Like Frank, I find myself having to accept a manager I don't think is a long-term hit for the club, but at the same time he is managing my club so he will get my support by that proxy. One thing; I am not sure what he is 'buying into' with us because I do not know what 'us' Lange and Vinai have been touting around these days. I look forward to seeing, and hope it alligns with what we all want...
 
Silly McSilly Face said:
This is the thing. Dynasty managers are rare. A lot of clubs are successful because they bin the manager off at the first signs of things getting stale. And the real successful dynasty managers are the ones that not only identify the radical changes necessary to stay at the top, but get the backing from their club to do just that. Fergie at Man Utd the classic example. He probably built at least 3 completely different squads in his time there. He got rid of players like Stam, Van Nistelrooy and Beckham when you would be thinking "you're mad" but he probably saw "they've lost that 5-10% here, they are in the comfort zone".

My biggest sadness following Spurs is we had that. Poch identified that players like Alli, Eriksen etc were mentally burning out and needed selling/replacing.....we never backed him....
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It absolutely broke me. We have never been the same. We stared the gift-horse in the mouth and walked away when the gift horse wanted to keep on giving.
 
SpurMeUp said:
Re. the supporter trust, have they never backed someone who made a mistake? The divisive nature of football fans seems limitless.
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Well, tis an opinions-based passion.
I think what elevates the division are not the differences of opinion, but when people cannot simply agree to disagree and move on. I am sure I've been guilty of that at times, I have also seen it from the other perspective, and it happened all the time last season.
 
I don't have a particularly strong view on RDZs appointment.

But one thing struck me - there is lots of talk about how he likes lots of control and that that will be clash with Tottenham at upper levels..... that's the past; that's Levy's Tottenham.
Perhaps the current lot are happy to have a manager that will lead and develop a club identity?
Time will tell.
 
monkeybarry said:
I don't have a particularly strong view on RDZs appointment.

But one thing struck me - there is lots of talk about how he likes lots of control and that that will be clash with Tottenham at upper levels..... that's the past; that's Levy's Tottenham.
Perhaps the current lot are happy to have a manager that will lead and develop a club identity?
Time will tell.
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I think it is why (whether people agree or not) crystal clarity has to be established from the first word. Because if what you say turns out to be true, then it is a massive, massive gamble.
FWIW I am not sure the Lewis family, let alone tweedledum and tweedledee, have any concept of what our identity is or ever was?
 
thfcsteff said:
I think it is why (whether people agree or not) crystal clarity has to be established from the first word. Because if what you say turns out to be true, then it is a massive, massive gamble.
FWIW I am not sure the Lewis family, let alone tweedledum and tweedledee, have any concept of what our identity is or ever was?
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It's a massive gamble, no question, but as a football manager he is the right level, and regardless of the cash thrown at him, he (in his mind) isn't coming here to get relegated.

The piece I find interesting is I think RDZ got them over a barrel, everyone is talking about the salary, the avoid relegation bonus, the 5 yr contract. I can't see anyway he took the gig without some guarantees on summer transfers, spend and input.
 
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