But mate, what do you get 3 Peter crouch and 2 bentley?
Keep Bale please
Exactly.
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what has happened to the transfer section?
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Exactly.
charlietheyid
Banned
True, but tonight for me it just became a bit more real. You know, when you have a top player, you always dream about him staying. Tonight, listening to that hit me.
Spursalot
Jimmy McCormick
But mate, what do you get 3 Peter crouch and 2 bentley?
Keep Bale please
Levy showed last summer that he can spend big and do well in the market, i'd trust us to do a decent job with 100m.
Mumorn
Vic Buckingham
Re: **Official Other Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
Some of our gambles have been superb though. Most notably Berba and Modric. The players are out there. Being a fan of Football Manager, I play it and these players do come up at 18 or 19 and they were wonderkids.
Modric was a wonderkid at Dinamo, Varane was a wonderkid at Lens, Lewandowski was a wonderkid at Lech. For every Modric though you get a Cherno Samba but at the end of the day you have to take risks. Football Manager is rarely wrong, like seriously. I could tell you some potential world beaters in a few years time, but I at least try and see them play before judging and not judging by a footie game. Like I could have said to you Varane is going to be one of the best centre backs in the world (after seeing him accomplish that in FM) but I wouldn't have said it as i had never even seen him play for Lens. But I've seen him at Madrid and about 3 years after I saw him on FM, I can finally say it.
Some of our gambles have been superb though. Most notably Berba and Modric. The players are out there. Being a fan of Football Manager, I play it and these players do come up at 18 or 19 and they were wonderkids.
Modric was a wonderkid at Dinamo, Varane was a wonderkid at Lens, Lewandowski was a wonderkid at Lech. For every Modric though you get a Cherno Samba but at the end of the day you have to take risks. Football Manager is rarely wrong, like seriously. I could tell you some potential world beaters in a few years time, but I at least try and see them play before judging and not judging by a footie game. Like I could have said to you Varane is going to be one of the best centre backs in the world (after seeing him accomplish that in FM) but I wouldn't have said it as i had never even seen him play for Lens. But I've seen him at Madrid and about 3 years after I saw him on FM, I can finally say it.
Re: **Official Other Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
I'm just offering possible reasons why things are the way they are, trying to see things from a realistic point of view. Things didn't go exactly as I wanted, there's a very good possibility there are reasons for it that I know nothing about, so why go straight into negative, attack mode?
A lot of what is said is far from constructive criticism. It's pretty straight forward 'Levy hasn't got a clue'.
I'm just offering possible reasons why things are the way they are, trying to see things from a realistic point of view. Things didn't go exactly as I wanted, there's a very good possibility there are reasons for it that I know nothing about, so why go straight into negative, attack mode?
A lot of what is said is far from constructive criticism. It's pretty straight forward 'Levy hasn't got a clue'.
Re: **Official Other Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
Must have missed the time Lloris and Vertonghen played in the PL earlier in their career.
Must have missed the time Lloris and Vertonghen played in the PL earlier in their career.
Baleforce
Arthur Rowe
Re: **Official Other Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
i kind of agree with your point, but not with the examples, Benteke won't be proven until he has done it over 2/3 seasons, Arsenal paid a lot of money (at the time) for Henry/Overmars/Van Persie/Wiltord etc (they admittedly got Vieira and other French youngsters cheap but only because Wenger had been tapping them up for years)
i kind of agree with your point, but not with the examples, Benteke won't be proven until he has done it over 2/3 seasons, Arsenal paid a lot of money (at the time) for Henry/Overmars/Van Persie/Wiltord etc (they admittedly got Vieira and other French youngsters cheap but only because Wenger had been tapping them up for years)
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But you were listening to the mouthpiece of only one of the three parties whose agreement is necessary to any deal.
If you hear something from Bale and Levy too, then it might be time to worry.
Re: **Official Other Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
Not so much if he has a clue - more to do with our scouting network in general. Ultimately they'll present names to AVB to take upstairs with Levy for consideration
Levy's policy is all to clear and tha cannot be changed (for now) - however failing to recognise continous weakness and shortfalls both in the team and souting is imv grounds for reasonable concern / criticism
Not so much if he has a clue - more to do with our scouting network in general. Ultimately they'll present names to AVB to take upstairs with Levy for consideration
Levy's policy is all to clear and tha cannot be changed (for now) - however failing to recognise continous weakness and shortfalls both in the team and souting is imv grounds for reasonable concern / criticism
Re: **Official Other Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
To be honest, I think on here, we should be beyond that, we're just fans with differing opinions, and I'm quite enjoying reading the different sides to the debate. Both raise valuable and credible points.
What I meant by the cherry picking comment was, that it's not as straight forward as that. Yes Benteke proved to be a great buy. Villa couldn't have known for sure he would settle in the league and do so well. By the same token, they are rebuilding, aiming for a new team. We are already established as a top 5/6 team in the league. To lose Ade and replace him with an unknown quantity, and this would remain true regardless of how well the scouts would have done their homework, is a risky business and one which could mean we drop right out of the race for the CL spots. Yes in hindsight we can see Ade hasn't contributed largely to the goals column but we know he has been a top striker in this league for 3 different clubs as well as Real. If I was Levy, I wouldn't want to risk losing out. Look at the signings we made when we sold Luka, Rafa etc.
Lloris. One of the best keepers in the world.
Vertonghen. Much sought after world-wide, recognised as a top talent
Dembele. A Premier league proven player who was earning rave reviews.
Dempsey. A Premier League proven goal getting midfielder.
Siggy. A young established Premier League player.
We are risk-averse right now, and with good reason. But I do think there is some wiggle room there. I personally would have liked to have seen a young 'starlet' signed to play up front and challenged Ade and Defoe for their places this season.
To be honest, I think on here, we should be beyond that, we're just fans with differing opinions, and I'm quite enjoying reading the different sides to the debate. Both raise valuable and credible points.
What I meant by the cherry picking comment was, that it's not as straight forward as that. Yes Benteke proved to be a great buy. Villa couldn't have known for sure he would settle in the league and do so well. By the same token, they are rebuilding, aiming for a new team. We are already established as a top 5/6 team in the league. To lose Ade and replace him with an unknown quantity, and this would remain true regardless of how well the scouts would have done their homework, is a risky business and one which could mean we drop right out of the race for the CL spots. Yes in hindsight we can see Ade hasn't contributed largely to the goals column but we know he has been a top striker in this league for 3 different clubs as well as Real. If I was Levy, I wouldn't want to risk losing out. Look at the signings we made when we sold Luka, Rafa etc.
Lloris. One of the best keepers in the world.
Vertonghen. Much sought after world-wide, recognised as a top talent
Dembele. A Premier league proven player who was earning rave reviews.
Dempsey. A Premier League proven goal getting midfielder.
Siggy. A young established Premier League player.
We are risk-averse right now, and with good reason. But I do think there is some wiggle room there. I personally would have liked to have seen a young 'starlet' signed to play up front and challenged Ade and Defoe for their places this season.
charlietheyid
Banned
We spent less that we got in :-k
I do agree that Lloris, vertonghen, and Dembele were great buys but he needed to back the club more with a striker and a winger. Why did he not do that?
Re: **Official Other Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
Hoot - Redknapp took over and signed Crouch and Defoe (and Keane) - i agree these aren't players on the same level as Berbatov but we were languishing in the bottom half at the time so you have to take that in to account. eventually we managed to shift Keane but in Crouch and Defoe we had a solid pair up front - was you calling for them to be sold/replaced the summer we finished top 4? of course you weren't because at the time they were a part of a very good team and were doing the business for us.
they may not have been on Berba's level - but they helped take us further than when he was here.
same as last season when we had Adebayor up front who i believe possibly contributed more than DB ever did over one premier league campaign (stats wise at least)
Hoot - Redknapp took over and signed Crouch and Defoe (and Keane) - i agree these aren't players on the same level as Berbatov but we were languishing in the bottom half at the time so you have to take that in to account. eventually we managed to shift Keane but in Crouch and Defoe we had a solid pair up front - was you calling for them to be sold/replaced the summer we finished top 4? of course you weren't because at the time they were a part of a very good team and were doing the business for us.
they may not have been on Berba's level - but they helped take us further than when he was here.
same as last season when we had Adebayor up front who i believe possibly contributed more than DB ever did over one premier league campaign (stats wise at least)
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Real aren't having the greatest season and they always have to add one or two stars every summer. Bale would be one the most likely targets and I think they'll try. That means we might have to suffer a whole summer of various media trying to destabilize us while Real waits for Levy to drop his asking price. The have a maximum, we have a minimum, but it'll still take most of the summer to come to an agreement.
charlietheyid
Banned
Levy is a businessman, he will get the money in. The only one I trust is Bale.
Because the ones AVB wanted cost far too much?
charlietheyid
Banned
And we have that partnership just made for that deal.
charlietheyid
Banned
Do you know that?
