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what has happened to the transfer section?
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Re: **Official Other Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
I think hindsights a wonderful thing. In a formation employing just 1 up top we signed Ade, had Defoe and went for Damaio. We failed, but got Dempsey.
Ade has not lived up to what we hoped, but when we signed him permanently I was ecstatic. I thought he was and still can be a fantastic, valuable asset.
I think it's crazy to suggest we can cherry pick a Lewandowski or Cavani or Falcao. Many players have great potential. Few achieve it. That's down to coaching, influences and most of all mentality.
I personally feel the answer lies somewhere in between, (as always) Levy and co having to be frugal and not taking of many gambles to upset an already top 4 achieving squad, and not taking enough of a gamble on be or two in the past 5 years or so. Considering outlays on Bentley and Bent.
If someone is suggesting we should have bought an up coming starlet in place of Ade, I'd say you're mad. But perhaps in addition to. After all Ade was an essential part of a side which achieved a top 4 finish.
I think hindsights a wonderful thing. In a formation employing just 1 up top we signed Ade, had Defoe and went for Damaio. We failed, but got Dempsey.
Ade has not lived up to what we hoped, but when we signed him permanently I was ecstatic. I thought he was and still can be a fantastic, valuable asset.
I think it's crazy to suggest we can cherry pick a Lewandowski or Cavani or Falcao. Many players have great potential. Few achieve it. That's down to coaching, influences and most of all mentality.
I personally feel the answer lies somewhere in between, (as always) Levy and co having to be frugal and not taking of many gambles to upset an already top 4 achieving squad, and not taking enough of a gamble on be or two in the past 5 years or so. Considering outlays on Bentley and Bent.
If someone is suggesting we should have bought an up coming starlet in place of Ade, I'd say you're mad. But perhaps in addition to. After all Ade was an essential part of a side which achieved a top 4 finish.
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
Re: **Official Other Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
He has his good points and his bad points. Not saying he isn't a good chairman, but he has cost us CL places in the last two seasons by not investin in January.
People argued it would be silly to give Redknapp money as he was off in the summer and that he was saving his money for the new guy. Well hey presto, Redknapp leaves and we STILL don't spend money this January despite being in a great position to kick on even further. What's the excuse this time?
He has his good points and his bad points. Not saying he isn't a good chairman, but he has cost us CL places in the last two seasons by not investin in January.
People argued it would be silly to give Redknapp money as he was off in the summer and that he was saving his money for the new guy. Well hey presto, Redknapp leaves and we STILL don't spend money this January despite being in a great position to kick on even further. What's the excuse this time?
charlietheyid
Banned
100% correct.
charlietheyid
Banned
I dont want any top strikers. I want Gareth Bale.
Re: **Official Other Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
How much quality?
We have no LB cover - other than Verts compromise and a right-footed Naughton
We have no creative mid / cover
We have no direct cover for either Bale or Lenon
We have 2 senior strikers and 1 average second striker / attacking mid who is nowhere near good enough to lead the line of a Top 4 challenging team
In my opinion in the summer we need (optimally)
- quality CM / playmaker
- quality LB
- quality #9
How much quality?
We have no LB cover - other than Verts compromise and a right-footed Naughton
We have no creative mid / cover
We have no direct cover for either Bale or Lenon
We have 2 senior strikers and 1 average second striker / attacking mid who is nowhere near good enough to lead the line of a Top 4 challenging team
In my opinion in the summer we need (optimally)
- quality CM / playmaker
- quality LB
- quality #9
Spursalot
Jimmy McCormick
Have absolutely no reason to sell bale in summer. If we do may as well just give up.
Hootnow
Jermaine Jenas
Re: **Official Other Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
Billy, its been 5 years since Berbatov left. Since then, other than the first abysmal season, when we finished 8th, we've finished 4th, 5th, 4th and will again this season finish 3rd-5th. Our strikers during that time, other than Adebayor last season imo, have been significantly inferior to Berbatov and have not been anywhere near the quality of the teams above us.
Billy, its been 5 years since Berbatov left. Since then, other than the first abysmal season, when we finished 8th, we've finished 4th, 5th, 4th and will again this season finish 3rd-5th. Our strikers during that time, other than Adebayor last season imo, have been significantly inferior to Berbatov and have not been anywhere near the quality of the teams above us.
Re: **Official Other Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
Ironic considering your conclusive statements on why we didn't sign certain players and why we didn't take certain punts.
Again you've missed the point in your eternal crusade to protect Levy from some constructive criticism - not EVERYTHING he does is perceived as negative - only certain aspects of his transfer policy in general
Ironic considering your conclusive statements on why we didn't sign certain players and why we didn't take certain punts.
Again you've missed the point in your eternal crusade to protect Levy from some constructive criticism - not EVERYTHING he does is perceived as negative - only certain aspects of his transfer policy in general
Spursalot
Jimmy McCormick
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
Re: **Official Other Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
Not impossible. Aston Villa found Benteke. Arsenal signed countless players in the 90's and early noughties through great scouting without spending a fortune. I accept we can't afford Cavani or Falcao and it's unrealistic to expect us to get that type of talent, but we play the same game in nearly every window, make an ambitious bid for top players, but we never actually get and we say "oh well we tried".
Of course, his strategy has it's advantages, but It really infuriates me whenever anyone even questions Levy, there is an outrage "how dare you, we would be brick without him". Even if you acknowledge what good things he has done for Spurs. It's like you have to be on board with every decision he makes or you are ungrateful.
Not impossible. Aston Villa found Benteke. Arsenal signed countless players in the 90's and early noughties through great scouting without spending a fortune. I accept we can't afford Cavani or Falcao and it's unrealistic to expect us to get that type of talent, but we play the same game in nearly every window, make an ambitious bid for top players, but we never actually get and we say "oh well we tried".
Of course, his strategy has it's advantages, but It really infuriates me whenever anyone even questions Levy, there is an outrage "how dare you, we would be brick without him". Even if you acknowledge what good things he has done for Spurs. It's like you have to be on board with every decision he makes or you are ungrateful.
charlietheyid
Banned
You can believe that spanish journo 100%. He speaks to Florentino Perez and all that. They are friends.
Didnt say Bale was going to Madrid, said Madrid are going to splash out cash on Gareth Bale. Word for Word. So its not done, but it will be a long transfer window.
Why is it terrible news?
We've known for more than a year that Real Madrid would love to get their hands on Bale and will make a big bid for him this summer. We've also known for more than a year that Bale wants to play abroad at some point in his career and will certainly want to play for a team that can offer him the chance to win major trophies.
This report reveals nothing new. The deal still only gets done if Bale wants to go now and if Madrid make an offer that is acceptable to Levy.
Nothing has changed.
charlietheyid
Banned
Re: **Official Other Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
See, we have tried. Some were tried and tested at PL and Pav was a fancy foreigner with good stats. The Berbatov/Campbell thing was a clusterfudge, but it has not been for a lack of trying that we haven't found this magical striker that will transform us into title challengers. Redknapp came in, asked for Defoe and Crouch and got them. Defoe got injured and we added Keane. In retrospect a big mistake, but we were desperate at the time. We suddenly have a lot of strikers on our books and we can't just keep adding more. We have to sell some and we don't know why that hasn't happened. Maybe we asked too much, maybe nobody wanted them, maybe they wanted to stay, maybe Redknapp wouldn't let them leave. Redknapp was far too happy with his experienced quartet to make any big pushes for a young, promising striker. Word has it we were offered Cavani at a similarly low price as Lewandowski before he went to Napoli, but Harry himself said no.
See, we have tried. Some were tried and tested at PL and Pav was a fancy foreigner with good stats. The Berbatov/Campbell thing was a clusterfudge, but it has not been for a lack of trying that we haven't found this magical striker that will transform us into title challengers. Redknapp came in, asked for Defoe and Crouch and got them. Defoe got injured and we added Keane. In retrospect a big mistake, but we were desperate at the time. We suddenly have a lot of strikers on our books and we can't just keep adding more. We have to sell some and we don't know why that hasn't happened. Maybe we asked too much, maybe nobody wanted them, maybe they wanted to stay, maybe Redknapp wouldn't let them leave. Redknapp was far too happy with his experienced quartet to make any big pushes for a young, promising striker. Word has it we were offered Cavani at a similarly low price as Lewandowski before he went to Napoli, but Harry himself said no.
Re: **Official Other Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
it's a work in progress Arc - we weren't exactly left with a strong/balanced/deep squad when Redknapp left and to build one to the level required was never going to get done over one summer, as it turns out we signed Lloris, Vertonghen and Dembele in the summer - 3 first team players of real quality and have also added young players with good potential in Holtby and Sigurdsson. 5 good deals and the type of deals which have me hopeful for the summer window ahead.
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Re: **Official Other Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
And we're still buying from the MotD DVD
And we're still buying from the MotD DVD
Would we use that 100mill to sign anyone near to bales quality? The answers no so why bother. In fact I'd go as far and say we wouldn't spend anywhere close to that amount.