He could've made subs to change it or changed the shape a bit. There was nothing from Ange.
Yes a leader on the pitch would've helped but Ange should've done his bit.
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Yes a leader on the pitch would've helped but Ange should've done his bit.
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
That issue has predated Postecoglou, and predated Conte, Nuno, Mourinho, Poch, Sherwood, AVB, Harry...
...off the top of my head, I cannot remember the last time we had a really vocal leader on the pitch who openly tells some of the others they're hiding. Even the ones who are famed as leaders elsewhere tend to go quiet at Spurs, like Parker did.
Maybe Davids? Sure I'm forgetting a few, but certainly seems like it's a long-standing and strange issue.
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
The shape was fine
They just changed a left back
It was the players who failed to do really basic stuff
Brighton gambled because they had too
And we were too nice
Soft
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
Hard to tell
But they should be embarrassed
The shape wasn't fine. We did nothing to stop the attack down our right. We were getting destroyed. We should've changed the shape to stop it instead of leaving Porro 1 on 1 all the time.
Yes, there was individual mistakes, but some of those should have been subbed before hand as they were playing poor, especially Udogie.
Mikey10
Jimmy Neighbour
Raised this on here a few years ago and was told by Scara that ‘all a captain does nowadays is organise the Christmas party.’
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
After the third goal, Hurzeler jumped out of his seat and roared his players on, pointing this way and that to where he wanted them to be.
Postecoglou stood there, hands in his pockets, face frozen, just like he did for all three goals. Didn't bring on a single sub until we had already thrown away a two goal lead and Brighton had made 4 (four) changes in that time.
I get the feeling he just dislikes making subs. That's okay, Poch didn't either, and he did alright. But when you combine that with his lack of energy on the touchline, Postecoglou can come across as singularly pointless at times.
It's just an image/optics thing - don't think he'll change it, but it admittedly doesn't help him.
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
Honestly… I’d he was getting destroyed I can’t fathom how their frost and last came via out left back failing. It wasn’t because of great crosses either
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
I woudn't say he has fewer tools to work with. Brighton have spent an absolute shedload to back him - aren't they the highest spenders in all of Europe this season?
But yes, whatever Hurzeler said at half time floored us, and Postecoglou was absolutely outcoached in that second half.
Just because the goals came from elsewhere doesn't change the fact we were getting done down our right repeatedly. Udogie was poor and should have been subbed.
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
That has always been the case though. Every single game, Porro is tucked narrow so the opposition left winger has the freedom of the city to waltz into that quadrant.
I don't know why we set up that way, but clearly there's a reason why we do it all the time.
Grays_1890
Chris Jones
Players have to take ownership.
Changes to personnel doesn't help if 7 players v 4 let a player waltz through for the 2nd goal.
Changes don't mean the LB (who was good till that moment) slice it into their strikers path.
Easy to blame Ange, that rhetoric is out there now for people to slam home. But I've seen tonight's Spurs too many times in the last 20 years, players need to take ownership
Baleforce
Arthur Rowe
Raised this on here a few years ago and was told by Scara that ‘all a captain does nowadays is organise the Christmas party.’
I hope the useless clams don’t get one this year.
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
I’m still content with Ange. Not expecting to win anything or finish in the top 4 but as long as we make improvements that’s all you can ask. He could help himself by actually managing games, making subs earlier and being more streetwise.
I get his hands are somewhat tied because Son is out, but please please start Moore in the next game if Son isn’t quite ready.
Bissouma for Bentancur for a bit more solidity.
I’d be cool with benching Udogie as well.
I get his hands are somewhat tied because Son is out, but please please start Moore in the next game if Son isn’t quite ready.
Bissouma for Bentancur for a bit more solidity.
I’d be cool with benching Udogie as well.
The whole manager energy on the sideline thing is a load of gonads that is just used to suit a narrative. Never gets bought up when said manager wins games, only when they suffer defeat. And conversely I've seen Conte and other managers criticised for their enthusiasm on the touchline as it apparently confuses the players. If eccentricity on the touchline was such a big deal then Martin O Neil would have been the most successful manager in the history of the game.....
Playing Moore instead of Werner wouldn't have changed any of the issues that we had in the second half.
afsoc4life
Vedran Corluka
Here we go. Blame Ange for the players messing up routine one on ones and refusing to compete. I will call him out when I think he should be called out but today's result was on the players. Disgusting.
The buck stops with Ange. He gets the credit for the first half performance, but he also takes the blame for the second half. Not changing anything until we were behind and not taking Udogie off who was having a nightmare in the second half was on him.