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Tim Sherwood…gone \o/
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Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
Quite right. Fully understand people are skeptical given his lack of experience but I can't fathom how they are so confident he will turn out to be a failure or why they are so unwilling to give him a chance.
Quite right. Fully understand people are skeptical given his lack of experience but I can't fathom how they are so confident he will turn out to be a failure or why they are so unwilling to give him a chance.
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
You see that kind of **** just throws a load of gasoline onto the fire :lol:
You see that kind of **** just throws a load of gasoline onto the fire :lol:
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
It's been the same for a while now going back to the end of Redknapps tenure, a team of two halves. I can probably count the number of times we've kept up the same level of play for 90 minutes in the last few years on my fingers it feels that bad. AVB was never able to remove it from us, and it seems Sherwood is struggling as well. You expect momentum to change during the passage of a game but far to often it's not momentum it's the players being off the pace, unable to string passes together or far too many individual errors.
I look at other teams in the league that blend intellect and agility with strength and pace and it constantly proves successful in the modern PL. It works for Emirates Marketing Project, Chelsea, Arsenal and did under Ferguson for Utd and is something Liverpool are working toward. I just don't feel our balance is right in the squad we have, in fact the only players we have that would fit that formula are Vertonghen, Dembele, Paulinho, Sandro and Erikson, we need to add a few more if we are to remove the one dimensional side of our play and be able to compete with the best.
It's been the same for a while now going back to the end of Redknapps tenure, a team of two halves. I can probably count the number of times we've kept up the same level of play for 90 minutes in the last few years on my fingers it feels that bad. AVB was never able to remove it from us, and it seems Sherwood is struggling as well. You expect momentum to change during the passage of a game but far to often it's not momentum it's the players being off the pace, unable to string passes together or far too many individual errors.
I look at other teams in the league that blend intellect and agility with strength and pace and it constantly proves successful in the modern PL. It works for Emirates Marketing Project, Chelsea, Arsenal and did under Ferguson for Utd and is something Liverpool are working toward. I just don't feel our balance is right in the squad we have, in fact the only players we have that would fit that formula are Vertonghen, Dembele, Paulinho, Sandro and Erikson, we need to add a few more if we are to remove the one dimensional side of our play and be able to compete with the best.
thfcsteff
George Hunt
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
An excellent point. I always felt this would prove an issue, his insistence that the squad be submissive to him, his intolerance of 'personalities'
to answer some other people's questions about the tonkings we got under him, I think the rot had been setting in already on both sides. I also think we will never fully grasp what the Bale situation meant to him. Bale had agreed to stay another year, we were bringing in his 'replacement' to slowly blend him in and not throw him in at the deep end, the switcharound happened mid-summer and suddenly it's all up the swanee. I don't think the manager ever got over that, and frankly, I don't think the club has either.
Having said that we are absolutely in with a shout of 4th, and if we can find a way to do it, we will get one more chance to get the right players in; that will be squarely on Lewis and Levy. If they get another crack, they cannot **** it up.
An excellent point. I always felt this would prove an issue, his insistence that the squad be submissive to him, his intolerance of 'personalities'
to answer some other people's questions about the tonkings we got under him, I think the rot had been setting in already on both sides. I also think we will never fully grasp what the Bale situation meant to him. Bale had agreed to stay another year, we were bringing in his 'replacement' to slowly blend him in and not throw him in at the deep end, the switcharound happened mid-summer and suddenly it's all up the swanee. I don't think the manager ever got over that, and frankly, I don't think the club has either.
Having said that we are absolutely in with a shout of 4th, and if we can find a way to do it, we will get one more chance to get the right players in; that will be squarely on Lewis and Levy. If they get another crack, they cannot **** it up.
africanspurs
Justin Edinburgh
africanspurs
Justin Edinburgh
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
have to say that after reading some of the posts in this thread my faith in this place is startting to return/get restored a little bit what with the people that are strongly defending Sherwood and not behaving like some reputation craving chameleon
I'll name names, Craig_J, Jurgen_the_germab (as always), Kingdawson.... please take a bow.
it actually feels good to see a balance of opinions on here from either side about the topic of our manager...
yesterday was a bit of a mare and 5-1 cant all be down to the officiating. Sherwood got some things wrong...wasnt helped by a soft penalty and someone needs to look into that lino's bank account, but aspects of that game just showed how out of our depth our team currently is..we were getting back into to that game though when as always they went to chiriches' side at which point he did his rendition of Lost In The Wilderness and the **** penalty ...thing is you have to ask yourself about that gap that allowed what looked like a 5 a side game...****ing chasm that appeared like the red sea for moses...
i dont get why he didnt just do what he said he was going to do...how the **** did sigurdsson work his way into that starting 11?, what happened to the proper wonky with the creative left?
sherwood needs to be held accountable for the game but to judge him on that one loss as a failure is probably verging on the stupidest think i have ever heard from anyone
have to say that after reading some of the posts in this thread my faith in this place is startting to return/get restored a little bit what with the people that are strongly defending Sherwood and not behaving like some reputation craving chameleon
I'll name names, Craig_J, Jurgen_the_germab (as always), Kingdawson.... please take a bow.
it actually feels good to see a balance of opinions on here from either side about the topic of our manager...
yesterday was a bit of a mare and 5-1 cant all be down to the officiating. Sherwood got some things wrong...wasnt helped by a soft penalty and someone needs to look into that lino's bank account, but aspects of that game just showed how out of our depth our team currently is..we were getting back into to that game though when as always they went to chiriches' side at which point he did his rendition of Lost In The Wilderness and the **** penalty ...thing is you have to ask yourself about that gap that allowed what looked like a 5 a side game...****ing chasm that appeared like the red sea for moses...
i dont get why he didnt just do what he said he was going to do...how the **** did sigurdsson work his way into that starting 11?, what happened to the proper wonky with the creative left?
sherwood needs to be held accountable for the game but to judge him on that one loss as a failure is probably verging on the stupidest think i have ever heard from anyone
Mulletperm
Mauricio Taricco
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
That IS what the vast majority of posters that aren't exclusively pro-Sherwood are doing. What I have a problem with is everyone being lumped into one group, let's call it 'the anti-Sherwood phalanx', assigned the opinions of the very few posters that are truly negative and biased towards Sherwood and being told to 'just support the manager' or 'don't rush to judgements'.
Most importantly: It doesn't address any of the points being raised. Every game is another 90 minutes of football to discuss. I'm neither pro or anti, but there are issues with what he's doing that are questionable and I will raise those points when I see them/think of them. That doesn't mean I'm aiming vitriol at him or wanting him sacked.
That IS what the vast majority of posters that aren't exclusively pro-Sherwood are doing. What I have a problem with is everyone being lumped into one group, let's call it 'the anti-Sherwood phalanx', assigned the opinions of the very few posters that are truly negative and biased towards Sherwood and being told to 'just support the manager' or 'don't rush to judgements'.
Most importantly: It doesn't address any of the points being raised. Every game is another 90 minutes of football to discuss. I'm neither pro or anti, but there are issues with what he's doing that are questionable and I will raise those points when I see them/think of them. That doesn't mean I'm aiming vitriol at him or wanting him sacked.
milo
Jack L. Jones
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
It's good to see a bit of brotherly love on GG. Are there any posters who are agnostic on Sherwood who you think are making good points?
It's good to see a bit of brotherly love on GG. Are there any posters who are agnostic on Sherwood who you think are making good points?
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
Parting shot from Capoue here: “I am not surprised. It is the English way. They don't know much about foreign players.”
Racist Timmeh?
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892...ttenham-exit-after-sherwood-rant?ICID=HP_BN_2
Parting shot from Capoue here: “I am not surprised. It is the English way. They don't know much about foreign players.”
Racist Timmeh?
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892...ttenham-exit-after-sherwood-rant?ICID=HP_BN_2
Pirate55
The Last Man Standing 17/18
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
So, again, what point were you attempting to make by re-posting my posts on AVB? Please explain.
Regarding the bold bit, was that not exactly what I was doing re AVB? Where is the difference?
Oh and who exactly are the posters who are "exclusively pro Sherwood" ?
So, again, what point were you attempting to make by re-posting my posts on AVB? Please explain.
Regarding the bold bit, was that not exactly what I was doing re AVB? Where is the difference?
Oh and who exactly are the posters who are "exclusively pro Sherwood" ?
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Baleforce
Arthur Rowe
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
good post, its all a bit highlander round here at the minute, you make any kind of criticism of TS and you have a very good chance of getting accused of being an AVB fanboy
good post, its all a bit highlander round here at the minute, you make any kind of criticism of TS and you have a very good chance of getting accused of being an AVB fanboy
GrimsbyYid
Gus Poyet
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
I don't understand what has happened to us... Aren't we one of the biggest clubs in the world? And got someone who's never managed before? Who had the biggest loser attitude in his post comments at city? Who appears to have no plan in a game other than play his best players and go for it? Who has admitted on more than one occassion he doesn't know some of our players. Who the player he does know, bentaleb, though he was from Harlow? Who thinks that player is better than French international Capoue? Who refuses to play a DM even though every match we give about 10 decent chances to, including palace at home? Who thinks we don't need a left back? And losing Defoe holtby, Capoue somehow makes us stronger?
It's like real life football manager is happening to us....
I don't understand what has happened to us... Aren't we one of the biggest clubs in the world? And got someone who's never managed before? Who had the biggest loser attitude in his post comments at city? Who appears to have no plan in a game other than play his best players and go for it? Who has admitted on more than one occassion he doesn't know some of our players. Who the player he does know, bentaleb, though he was from Harlow? Who thinks that player is better than French international Capoue? Who refuses to play a DM even though every match we give about 10 decent chances to, including palace at home? Who thinks we don't need a left back? And losing Defoe holtby, Capoue somehow makes us stronger?
It's like real life football manager is happening to us....
Yiddo
Ian Walker
Kingdawson
Banned
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
He's complaining about Sherwood playing him in defence when AVB did the same damn thing? what a fool.
He's complaining about Sherwood playing him in defence when AVB did the same damn thing? what a fool.