Summer transfer thread, AvB window wrap up pg 1527

[nayimfromthehalfwayline]

££££££££££££

 

[Kingdawson]

If Moutinho and Sahin are both not happening i wonder who we're going to target...

 

[Jordinho]

1. He's a thick ****
2. His agent have probably told him he should be paid a lot more than he is right now. If Arsenal don't give him a massive payrise he might see out his contract.

 

[Kingdawson]

Walcott was a Pool fan as a kid too wasn't he?

 

[indianspur]

If Moutinho and Sahin are both not happening i wonder who we're going to target...

hopefully Benat from Betis

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[indianspur]

If Moutinho and Sahin are both not happening i wonder who we're going to target...

Gourcuff??

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[Jordinho]

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Brazilian club Santos say they have been offered Florent Malouda but are 'scared' of his wage demands

 

[jimmyb]

I'd take any reports claiming that we're no longer interested in Moutinho with a large pinch of salt.

I'd be surprised if either we or the player gave up so easily. And I'd be surprised if there isn't still a deal to be done.

 

[unknown]

I'd take any reports claiming that we're no longer interested in Moutinho with a large pinch of salt.

I'd be surprised if either we or the player gave up so easily. And I'd be surprised if there isn't still a deal to be done.

 

[DHSF]

I think the hold up of modric going to Real is that we are trying to tie up Moutinho at the same time. I dont think Levy wants another Berba situation happening and Levy will also be wary that if we were to get rid of Modric someone like Moutinho a high profile signing has to be the replacement.

 

[indianspur]

I'd take any reports claiming that we're no longer interested in Moutinho with a large pinch of salt.

I'd be surprised if either we or the player gave up so easily. And I'd be surprised if there isn't still a deal to be done.

if they dont budge with the 31 mill price tag then its no deal imo

Porto do not sell their players cheaply....imagine, they sold Ferraira to chelsea, 8 years ago, for 14 mill, Bosingwa for 18 mill a few years ago, 20 mill for Anderson to United 5 years ago. I could go on and on. Those players were never worth that amount, but Porto dont care. They get top dollar for their talent

same with manager. They didnt budge over AVB's 13 mill release clause a year ago.

the Porto board must have gone to the same negotiating school as Levy

 

[jimmyb]

Originally Posted by indianspur

if they dont budge with the 31 mill price tag then its no deal imo

Porto do not sell their players cheaply....imagine, they sold Ferraira to chelsea, 8 years ago, for 14 mill, Bosingwa for 18 mill a few years ago, 20 mill for Anderson to United 5 years ago. I could go on and on. Those players were never worth that amount, but Porto dont care. They get top dollar for their talent

same with manager. They didnt budge over AVB's 13 mill release clause a year ago.

the Porto board must have gone to the same negotiating school as Levy

It all depends upon how important AVB believes the signing of Moutinho to be. It is perfectly apparent that Levy is doing all that he possibly can to support his new head coach.

If, say, Spurs get £35 million plus add ons (or a player) for Modric, and if AVB sees Moutinho as central to his plans, then Levy can justify paying £30 million. He will have got a younger replacement while adding further funds to the kitty. Sure, Moutinho's not exactly the same kind of player as Modric. Not as dangerous going forward, perhaps. But he's still a fine player who does have some qualities that Modric lacks.

Crucially, there are two further things about Moutinho which could make him at least as valuable to Spurs as Modric currently is:

a) He knows AVB and has excelled in the type of formation and playing style that AVB will adopt.
b) He really wants to play for AVB again, at Spurs.

So even if Porto do dig their heels in (though I suspect that there is probably a little wriggle room), I believe that the Moutinho deal could still be done. Perhaps a compromise can be reached in terms of the staging of payments, with Spurs spreading the cost over five years or so? That way, both parties could be satisfied.

 

[nayimfromthehalfwayline]

if they dont budge with the 31 mill price tag then its no deal imo

Why? How much should we spend adequately replacing Modric?

 

[WhoopWhoop]

Anyone like the look of James McCarthy? I reckon he's gonna be a huge player for a big team soon

 

[rosenthal]

If Moutinho and Sahin are both not happening i wonder who we're going to target...

Not many like for like replacements, depends a bit on what we're looking for in the player

Yann M'Vila, Bruno Soriano
Beñat Etxebarria, Kevin Strootman, Ganso, Michael Carrick
Jordy Clasie, Yohan Cabaye

 

[Kingdawson]

So we're screwed if we don't get either Moutinho or Sahin then?

for me VDV can play that position easily.

 

[DubaiSpur]

Not many like for like replacements, depends a bit on what we're looking for in the player

Yann M'Vila, Bruno Soriano
Beñat Etxebarria, Kevin Strootman, Ganso, Michael Carrick
Jordy Clasie, Yohan Cabaye

Perfect. Not the same style, but arguably an improvement.



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Other than that, I'd also mention Borja Valero and Javi Martinez as possibilities, the latter less so than the former though. Marvin Martin would have been a good repalcement as well, but he's just moved to Lille. Other than those guys, not many others come to mind. Joe Allen, maybe. Moussa Sissoko, possibly, although his development's stalled somewhat. Mathieu Valbuena, again, maybe, though he woudn't be playing his natural No.10 position.

 

[NaijaSpurs]

if they dont budge with the 31 mill price tag then its no deal imo

Porto do not sell their players cheaply....imagine, they sold Ferraira to chelsea, 8 years ago, for 14 mill, Bosingwa for 18 mill a few years ago, 20 mill for Anderson to United 5 years ago. I could go on and on. Those players were never worth that amount, but Porto dont care. They get top dollar for their talent

same with manager. They didnt budge over AVB's 13 mill release clause a year ago.

the Porto board must have gone to the same negotiating school as Levy

Indeed, Atletico Madrid had to cough up 35 mill pounds for Falcao and the only reason Chelsea did not get Hulk last season was because they refused to budge on their asking price. Yep, looks like Levy may have met his match

 

[NaijaSpurs]

So we're screwed if we don't get either Moutinho or Sahin then?

for me VDV can play that position easily.

I am inclined to agree, especially as I think AVB would rather his front 3 have a bit more pace than VDV

 

[Discodean]

Why? How much should we spend adequately replacing Modric?

For me would depend on how much modric goes for (and on the player we are looking at). I would be happy if we could make 10 million on any deals that happen.