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Politics, politics, politics

monkeybarry said:
Yup.

And an election to follow.

As Dodgy said in the mid 90s, this country's not United and the Kingdoms passed away.
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Who will be the 2/3rds of MPs who vote for it?

Neither the Brexiteers nor Soubrey/Clarke have enough numbers to reach that if they join Labour and the SNP

A GE will only happen before 2022 if both sides are confident they will win (like 2017)
 
Gutter Boy said:
Johnson has gone too - no confidence vote incoming
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May fudges up again. The only way for the resignation to not weaken her would have been for her to announce his replacement within a couple of minutes of his resignation. Not only does it say she's on top of it, but also that she's happy he's gone.

I wonder if she'll give it to Gove in order to shut off the coup from that angle.
 
Gutter Boy said:
Who will be the 2/3rds of MPs who vote for it?

Neither the Brexiteers nor Soubrey/Clarke have enough numbers to reach that if they join Labour and the SNP

A GE will only happen before 2022 if both sides are confident they will win (like 2017)
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For a vote to go to parliament there would need to be public appetite.
If there is public appetite parliament wouldn't vote against it. Especially in the current climate.

There are some big marches on parliament on Friday.
If England lose Wednesday public attention will shift.
If we win, no one will give a fudge until it's too late.
 
scaramanga said:
May fudges up again. The only way for the resignation to not weaken her would have been for her to announce his replacement within a couple of minutes of his resignation. Not only does it say she's on top of it, but also that she's happy he's gone.

I wonder if she'll give it to Gove in order to shut off the coup from that angle.
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@ShipOfGoldblum - you were saying??!
 
monkeybarry said:
For a vote to go to parliament there would need to be public appetite.
If there is public appetite parliament wouldn't vote against it. Especially in the current climate.

There are some big marches on parliament on Friday.
If England lose Wednesday public attention will shift.
If we win, no one will give a fudge until it's too late.
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I've yet to meet a single MP who would wilfully lose their seat in order to give the public what they want. Even less a cabinet minister lose their role.
 
scaramanga said:
I think @monkeybarry was suggesting that Gove would be worse that Johnson in the role.

I'd say Gove is brighter and better than Johnson, but less likely to fudge off and leave the grown ups to talk the way Johnson would have.
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Oh, yeah, gotcha.

Gove has actually been okay in Environment AFAIK. Can't see him being anything like the disaster that Johnson has in cases where British interests are affected, outside trade.
 
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