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Gutter Boy said:
It will be a different type of right to the Cameron-Osborne years.

May is socially conservative to their socially liberal. But she is economically interventionist to their economic liberalism (free markets).

So some things like further privatisation/big business free hand/erosion of worker rights may be curtailed.

However the social thing is concerning - marriage tax breaks, favouring religion over gay rights, snooping over civil liberties etc.
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She gets it all wrong. She won't be nearly as damaging to the country as the alternatives but she's a fudging fool.
 
monkeybarry said:
It does indeed, both Irish and British.
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As has been pointed out, it is one thing to sympathise with or support the cause of Irish republicanism. I'm of largely Irish Catholic descent myself. I have no serious problem with most points along that spectrum. However I find the view expressed here extremely distasteful, to say the very least.
 
galeforce said:
I don't know about that, in the short term we're fudged anyway, its the long term erosion of liberties that concerns me more
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At least you can rely on good old-fashioned incompetence to ensure they are ineffective.

Everything in the Digital Economy Act could be circumvented by simply knowing the words 'proxy server'.
 
Gutter Boy said:
At least you can rely on good old-fashioned incompetence to ensure they are ineffective.

Everything in the Digital Economy Act could be circumvented by simply knowing the words 'proxy server'.
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The problem is the attitude not the practicality, it educates people poorly on the real issues.
 
scaramanga said:
Targeting civilians is wrong.

Not distinguishing oneself from civilians as a combatant makes your own civilians a target.

It doesn't matter how much you agree or disagree with the cause of the IRA (I'm actually very sympathetic to their cause), their actions are wrong, not matter what the angle. Anyone refusing to call their actions what they were is scum - especially if they're part of the UK political system.
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what's your view of the French resistance? As in many things I think there is a lot of grey rather than Black and White.
 
Spursman said:
Dont know how anyone can vote for Corbyn and his team.

Corbyn -
Arsenal Fan
Calls terrorist organisations such as Hamas "our friends" you cant be friends and talk to peoples whos agenda is to kill you
Doesnt want a shoot to kill policy, imagine how many more would have died in the latest terror attacks
Doesn't and wouldn't use nuclear weapons if we needed to - this man will not protect us here
Has shown up to pro Palestinian rally's shouting the odds on why Israel have a missile defense system. Imagine we had to have one here? would he not deploy them and let missiles rain down on us? he not want to protect us!
Hasn't and wont rid of his Parties anti-Semitic members
Rejected a invitation to attend the Holocaust museum in Israel saying he was too busy.

All of this demonstrates the character of the man who is so far left, seen plenty of video footage of his crap. Look at the mans face for gods sake, can you trust that!

Abbott - wow even corbyn has realised what an absolute taco this woman is and she is now "off sick" dont really need to comment any further on her. She digs her own graves. Fun to watch though :)

This country needs a strong leader who will stand up for us and protect us, we need someone to think of us Brits and not worry about anyone else.

May isnt much better and hasnt convinced me she is up for the job. Remember you are voting for a team not just an individual. Do you really want Corbyn & Abbott leading this country? GHod help us!

I only wish we could bring back Winston Churchill to bring this country back to its best again. I want my son to be brought up in a strong country with strong leaders. Corbyn isnt the man for us!
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Yeah let's have Churchill back, so he can order police to shoot at his own people. He was an A grade cnut, who got lucky through a power vacuum in a time of crisis!
 
galeforce said:
The problem is the attitude not the practicality, it educates people poorly on the real issues.
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May's terminally wounded within her own party now though. And there are too many libertarians and liberals, who will rebel against anything too authoritarian. Her and her handful of paternalist allies don't have the numbers.
 
Gutter Boy said:
May's terminally wounded within her own party now though. And there are too many libertarians and liberals, who will rebel against anything too authoritarian. Her and her handful of paternalist allies don't have the numbers.
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I hope so, i do not want 5 years of her. I still quite like Hauge, wish he had not switched sides on the EU but he is pretty decent for a tory.
 
r-u-s-x said:
what's your view of the French resistance? As in many things I think there is a lot of grey rather than Black and White.
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I think that only attacking military targets is significantly better than attacking civilians.

There's a good reason why most of the civilised world got together and decided that they would offer POW status to those not wearing uniform or insignia. Doing so endangers the very civilians those people claim to be fighting for.
 
Danishfurniturelover said:
I hope so, i do not want 5 years of her. I still quite like Hauge, wish he had not switched sides on the EU but he is pretty decent for a tory.
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Hague retired in 2015 and is now in the Lords. He was a good guy though and on the modernising side of the party.

I'm not sure who their next Cameron is. I don't see anyone near the front benches, but sometimes that's the best way, as they won't be tainted by association with the old guard. Ruth Davidson looks the most impressive at the moment.
 
scaramanga said:
I think that only attacking military targets is significantly better than attacking civilians.

There's a good reason why most of the civilised world got together and decided that they would offer POW status to those not wearing uniform or insignia. Doing so endangers the very civilians those people claim to be fighting for.
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I agree think it is better attacking military targets but I can see that their only recuse was not to put on a uniform and was using this to show there is some grey, Wiki has 30,000 civilians killed in retribution but a key part in the overthrow of the NAzi's. In the case of the French resistance can you see why it was necessary?
 
r-u-s-x said:
I agree think it is better attacking military targets but I can see that their only recuse was not to put on a uniform and was using this to show there is some grey, Wiki has 30,000 civilians killed in retribution but a key part in the overthrow of the NAzi's. In the case of the French resistance can you see why it was necessary?
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As with the IRA, I can understand the cause without approving of the actions.
 
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