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Gutter Boy said:
First I don't think May will have the strength for a big reshuffle. She's probably quite in danger of an internal coup after the election, so will need to appease her big beasts (including Johnson)

And second Davis has done a year's prep for Brexit and is specially positioned as he and Michel Barnier are old drinking buddies from the 90s (they were Europe ministers for UK and France at the same time). It would be foolish to throw away those those advantages
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If May doesn't have the strength to hold a reshuffle immediately after the election, she won't have the strength to see Brexit through.

I think that she will be fine in the short term though. She looks like she is on track to get a 40-50 seat majority which will buy her a few years and allow her to pick the cabinet that she wants.

The rumour seems reasonably well sourced and there have been rumours of senior cabinet members being moved throughout the campaign.

The problem that she has is that none of the three Brexiteers are particularly strong on detail and we are about to enter an incredibly detailed and complex set of negotiations.

Moving Davis to the Foreign Office where he can charm other countries plays to his strengths. Gummer is meant to be bright and good on detail and has been a member of the No 10 Brexit committee, who are running the show, since last summer. Johnson is meant to have resisted moves to make him party chairman but it does feel like it is the natural role for him.
 
I was really surprised that Corbyn refused to even simply say that he could conceive of a scenario where he would actually use Trident in a purely retaliatory manner.
Would have defanged a lot of questioners, people were just laughing at him after a while
 
Hotshot-Tottenham said:
Jeez, question one for May on QT special: why are you a liar?

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To the point, but accurate. How many recent examples could be given, most recently her lying about Abbott, getting rid of DNA data, ironic given they she herself has already been guilty of destroying some. What about calling an early election...how many more do you.want?
 
Danishfurniturelover said:
I have decided I certainly wont vote Labour, I do not like racism and their treatment of the Jewish is appalling. If the English Democrats are not on the ballot then second general election running I will draw a penis across the paper. I like the English Democrats they are the party most in touch with me.

http://englishdemocrats.party/
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Why what have they done? Banned them from public education, the universities and working for the civil service and in the professions? Wearing the Star of David? What nonsense are you talking about? Perhaps confusing an anti Israel foreign affairs position by SOME in the party for anti Semitism. I find this generalisation to be quite mind boggling. I think you will find plenty more anti Semites in UKIP or the nut job right of the Tories.
 
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Gilzeantoscore said:
To the point, but accurate. How many recent examples could be given, most recently her lying about Abbott, getting rid of DNA data, ironic given they she herself has already been guilty of destroying some. What about calling an early election...how many more do you.want?
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Oh, don't get me wrong... I have no love for May.

My comment was more like, "wow, this audience member is taking no prisoners!"
 
Gilzeantoscore said:
Iis that what lying is called now...changing course. Well I thought I had heard it all, ha, ha, ha.
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i am not voting for her but i do not get what is wrong with changing your mind and calling an election

not like she changed her mind about a war or something, the is enough to have a pop at her for without pretending to be offended over something that is not that important

also she is a woman they change their mind all the time
 
Parklaner81 said:
Corbyn originally wasn't going to take part in last week's leaders debate. Was he 'lying' about it all along then?
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Yes he was. but that was getting one over the Tories and it worked too. Whether or not he turns up to a debate does not impact on voters in any way. But nice try anyway.
 
Modric THFC said:
Amber Rudd is fudged. Slipping a note to the chairman of a hustings to get her opponent silenced when he starting talking about her doing deals with the Saudis.


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Was saying this about the Saudis on here last week. Hope she gets her comeuppance!
 
Modric THFC said:
Amber Rudd is fudged. Slipping a note to the chairman of a hustings to get her opponent silenced when he starting talking about her doing deals with the Saudis.


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Shhh...we can't talk about the elephant in the room; how the Saudi ideology of Wahhabism is the basis of the beliefs of ISIS and Al Qaeda, how Saudi money spreads this belief and funds terrorist groups, how Bin Laden was Saudi, 15 of the 19 hijackers on 9/11 were Saudi and how they offered to cover the costs for the United States if they went into Syria and overthrew Assad (you can find the video of John Kerry talking about this on youtube).

Let's keep selling them weapons and not say anything bad about them, fly the flags at half-mast when their leaders die and generally kiss their arse.
 
By the way, the Tories under May will push for much more control of the internet. Look at the censorship by Rudd there, passing her little note to get the guy shut down. I don't trust them to censor our internet use in the name of safety.
 
^ That's the thing though, it's a double-edged sword. There's too many fudgetards on the Internet as it is. If I had my way, I'd end Social media in a drop of a hat. But hey, its now becoming a tool to catch the blaringly obvious. The same dingdongs who think they are safe behind their keyboards and touch screens - trolls, hate speech, etc.

Lets remember the days before Myspace. if you had an opinion, the only people who would have to hear it are the ones you had around you, not the rest of the planet who actually couldnt care less. We've had nearly 20 years of unregulated chatter.

Lastly, The Snoopers bill is Theresa Mays legacy. She spent most of her time as Home Secetary putting that together. So it was no surprise when she became the PM last year, it got pushed through Parliament within the first couple of months.
 
I posted this in another thread, but it's relevant here:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...-findings-may-never-be-published-saudi-arabia

The Observer reported in January last year that the Home Office’s extremism analysis unit had been directed by Downing Street to investigate overseas funding of extremist groups in the UK, with findings to be shown to Theresa May, then home secretary, and Cameron.

However, 18 months later, the Home Office confirmed the report had not yet been completed and said it would not necessarily be published, calling the contents “very sensitive”.

A decision would be taken “after the election by the next government” about the future of the investigation, a Home Office spokesman said.

In his letter to May, Brake wrote: “As home secretary at the time, your department was one of those leading on the report. Eighteen months later, and following two horrific terrorist attacks by British-born citizens, that report still remains incomplete and unpublished.

“It is no secret that Saudi Arabia in particular provides funding to hundreds of mosques in the UK, espousing a very hardline Wahhabist interpretation of Islam. It is often in these institutions that British extremism takes root.”

The contents of the report may prove politically as well as legally sensitive. Saudi Arabia, which has been a funding source for fundamentalist Islamist preachers and mosques, was visited by May earlier this year.
 
scaramanga said:
Same as it is every election - Conservative voters are not the types who tend to shout about their political opinions, Labour are.
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looked for this at the time since the war 6 elections under skewed Labour while 12 Conservative .... last 10 elections 8 underestimated Tory while 2 Labour, only '83 significantly against Labour.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/are-the-u-k-polls-skewed/

Not disagreeing with your point, was just looking for the data to back it up.
 
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Modric THFC said:
Amber Rudd is fudged. Slipping a note to the chairman of a hustings to get her opponent silenced when he starting talking about her doing deals with the Saudis.


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Tories define this as 'democracy.' They have more front than Buckingham Palace. The unmitigated gall of this woman, she really is going up with a bullet on my table of thoroughly unlikeable Tories. I wonder what she does with her human suit when she takes it of at night?
 
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I've added an election prediction poll. Just for fun, what you think will happen, not what you'd like to happen. The poll closes just before the polling booths on Thursday.
 
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