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Politics, politics, politics

I wasn't going to watch the BBC debate tonight but that's all changed.
Surely, it can only be positive for Corbyn.
I think the Tories have been far too complacent.

I cannot believe that an old school Socialist is within reach of a Tory candidate in modern day Britain. Shows how bad the Tory campaign is.
Putting Amber Rudd up there is another mistake as she is an arch remainer and surely going to come under close scrutiny.
 
spitshine said:
I wasn't going to watch the BBC debate tonight but that's all changed.
Surely, it can only be positive for Corbyn.
I think the Tories have been far too complacent.

I cannot believe that an old school Socialist is within reach of a Tory candidate in modern day Britain. Shows how bad the Tory campaign is.
Putting Amber Rudd up there is another mistake as she is an arch remainer and surely going to come under close scrutiny.
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I'm slightly surprised the SNP haven't rushed Sturgeon in at the last minute. That would really turn the screw by truly leaving May the odd one out.
 
Parklaner81 said:
I'm slightly surprised the SNP haven't rushed Sturgeon in at the last minute. That would really turn the screw by truly leaving May the odd one out.
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Yes, although that doesn't surprise me. The SNP have peaked, it's only downhill from here.

At the moment, it looks a very left wing dominant set of politicians
 
spitshine said:
I wasn't going to watch the BBC debate tonight but that's all changed.
Surely, it can only be positive for Corbyn.
I think the Tories have been far too complacent.

I cannot believe that an old school Socialist is within reach of a Tory candidate in modern day Britain. Shows how bad the Tory campaign is.
Putting Amber Rudd up there is another mistake as she is an arch remainer and surely going to come under close scrutiny.
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more to the point she's a fudging idiot
 
scaramanga said:
She's worse than that. She's like the person selling a top brand who doesn't know her stuff.

Boateng used to employ a lot of them so I stopped shopping in his stores. Unfortunately the only stores available right now are the M&S clothing department or the alley along the side which is full of muggers.
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M&S clothing hmmm, go on admit you shop there. You will be driving a mondeo before you know it young man.
 
Danishfurniturelover said:
Corbyn is interesting I will admit to liking him the most of those standing, just he is to involved in special interest minorities for my liking. If it is making sure Muslims and gays are not being bullied I am all for it, but I think he goes to far so things like the traveller manifesto are to much for me a hardworking average joe all his life.

May is appalling and I am surprised that she called this election without even planning in secret some policies, she had the jump on everyone but did not even prepare, it is odd. I can see why in an age of protests people want an alternative vision it is why I think Corbyn is interesting.

We were in London yesterday, went to the Design Museum in Chelsea to see the exhibit on carter watches which I really recommend by the way. On the train on the way home the were two youngsters(late teens or early 20s) they were talking about how everyone would back Corbyns manifesto but just dont like the man and that people who vote tory are just racist. I wont be voting tory but I do think a major problem with Labour and its supporters are that they look down at their traditional working class voter and can not emphasise with people of different views. I often find the left to be even more intolerant then the right if you have a different opinion to them.
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Well I'm a working class voter who will vote Labour and most of the people I know are working class (most of them will also vote Labour).

Some of the middle-class left do look down their noses at the working class right and cry "racist" I agree, and I think they are wrong for doing it. But lets not pretend we don't have a middle-class right who look down their noses at working-class Labour voters, particularly if they are from the north of England. That cuts both ways.
 
The moderator of the debate is crap. But in the end, it will come down to what lines the news wants to run with, because most people won't give this debate much attention other than that.
 
Seedy Ron said:
Yup.

I hate stuff like this, dunno why I'm watching it.
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I am watching something about the fire of London on channel 5. Nothing any of them can say that will change my mind, which is undecided.

You could head over to MFC take a romanian girl pvt and ask her to put some custard on her tits.
 
the dza said:
Well I'm a working class voter who will vote Labour and most of the people I know are working class (most of them will also vote Labour).

Some of the middle-class left do look down their noses at the working class right and cry "racist" I agree, and I think they are wrong for doing it. But lets not pretend we don't have a middle-class right who look down their noses at working-class Labour voters, particularly if they are from the north of England. That cuts both ways.
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Oh it does your right there.

I have a lot of time for the working class if they work. I never really enjoyed work so I never saw why I had to go to work and others could sit on benefits. I never hated work and because of the work ethic instilled in me when I was young I always wanted to go out and earn my own money. To many of the benefit cheats and work shy scum would always hide behind labour party.

But the actual working class who are just low paid I have all the time in the world for and would like to see them get in work benefits. I guess because I was a worker a lot of my views on the scroungers shapes my views of some of the Labour vote.

I am absolutely amazed at how bad a politician May is, not sure what is next for the Tory party, should not admit to this because @scaramanga will have a field day but my acupuncturist went to school with George Osborne and despite the fact he is a day hard liberal he think Osborne is the most talented man he ever met. To be fair Cal my acupuncturist has done a lot of acid in his time as apparently a lot who went to school at Eaton did. Maybe the comeback of Osborne.
 
Danishfurniturelover said:
Oh it does your right there.

I have a lot of time for the working class if they work. I never really enjoyed work so I never saw why I had to go to work and others could sit on benefits. I never hated work and because of the work ethic instilled in me when I was young I always wanted to go out and earn my own money. To many of the benefit cheats and work shy scum would always hide behind labour party.

But the actual working class who are just low paid I have all the time in the world for and would like to see them get in work benefits. I guess because I was a worker a lot of my views on the scroungers shapes my views of some of the Labour vote.

I am absolutely amazed at how bad a politician May is, not sure what is next for the Tory party, should not admit to this because @scaramanga will have a field day but my acupuncturist went to school with George Osborne and despite the fact he is a day hard liberal he think Osborne is the most talented man he ever met. To be fair Cal my acupuncturist has done a lot of acid in his time as apparently a lot who went to school at Eaton did. Maybe the comeback of Osborne.
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In my experience, people who don't work and sit on benefits don't really have a political affiliation, they don't vote for anyone and don't give a sh1t. Same as a lot of people I work with to be honest. Though there is a lad at my work who told me today he's going to vote for Corbyn and it's the first time he's voted, other than the EU referendum (he voted leave in that).

Osborne doing acid does make some sense...
 
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