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Gutter Boy said:
If they had any sense, their criteria would be – electable to floating/centrist voters. And their shortlist would be Tugendhat, Stewart and Davidson (re the latter two, the PM can also come from the Lords – see Alec Douglas-Home as last example)
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Stewart would be interesting, I like him. But any Tory that is not named Sunak stands no chance at a general election. And Even Sunak’s chances are slim.

Time for Labour to come to the rescue, have a much closer relationship with the EU, with maybe a view to rejoining if we can keep the pound. That alone will boost the markets, and put us on a more stable footing.
 
ShipOfGoldblum said:
If they had any sense (and they are members of the post-sanity Tory Party, so they don’t) they would select the lettuce out of calculated boaty-mcboatface populism.
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Imagine if they went with Cruella Braverman or BadEnoch Powell. Blimey - it would be Truss all over again but in 6 days, rather than 6 weeks
 
DTA said:
Stewart would be interesting, I like him. But any Tory that is not named Sunak stands no chance at a general election. And Even Sunak’s chances are slim.

Time for Labour to come to the rescue, have a much closer relationship with the EU, with maybe a view to rejoining if we can keep the pound. That alone will boost the markets, and put us on a more stable footing.
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Stamer ruled out joining the SM for ever. If he u-turned on that, the red wall would respond the same way as they did when Corbyn did the same. Literally the only way Labour could lose the next election now is by making Brexit any sort of issue at all.
 
Gutter Boy said:
Stamer ruled out joining the SM for ever. If he u-turned on that, the red wall would respond the same way as they did when Corbyn did the same. Literally the only way Labour could lose the next election now is by making Brexit any sort of issue at all.
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Not sure about that (as if you could be sure about anything just now), how many of the red wall are looking at it and thinking that it may not have been great but its better than what we have now, or what we are about to get.
You learn from your mistakes, supposedly.
 
monkeybarry said:
Nah, they'll wait until Labour are in power before doing that.

No-one would back them to do it now.
And with single currency being a prerequisite it's a very difficult sell, even to a solid remainer
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The sentiment is very much trending that way already and even this current set of crises, which frankly have only a very tenuous connection to Brexit are being tarred with the same brush. IMO is just a matter of time before one of the main parties decides it is a vote winner and jumps on it. The currency thing will be worked around if there is a concerted push to take a step on Barnier's ladder.
 
glasgowspur said:
Not sure about that (as if you could be sure about anything just now), how many of the red wall are looking at it and thinking that it may not have been great but its better than what we have now, or what we are about to get.
You learn from your mistakes, supposedly.
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Honestly, looking around northern England, I would say roughly none. There's huge anger at Tory sleaze and economic insanity, but people here are still positive about Brexit and its potential.
 
Gutter Boy said:
If they had any sense, their criteria would be – electable to floating/centrist voters. And their shortlist would be Tugendhat, Stewart and Davidson (re the latter two, the PM can also come from the Lords – see Alec Douglas-Home as last example)
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Bob Stewart is 73 and completely unknown. Would be very very left field - no pun intended.

I assume you mean Dehenna Davidson? A 29 year old as leader would be very bold.
Although she'd be out first Ginger PM. One more than Labour!

In know you mean Ruth Davidson.
Are you talking about Rory Stewart? He's not in the Lord's.
 
Rorschach said:
The sentiment is very much trending that way already and even this current set of crises, which frankly have only a very tenuous connection to Brexit are being tarred with the same brush. IMO is just a matter of time before one of the main parties decides it is a vote winner and jumps on it. The currency thing will be worked around if there is a concerted push to take a step on Barnier's ladder.
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I agree. However it won't be under this current parliament - there are too many pro Brexit voices with power that just wouldn't get behind it.
It'll be talked about in the same way parliamentary reform is - we all know it needs changing, but it takes someone with balls to say "we haven't got this right". Neither UK politics or the electorate have the balls for that any time soon.
 
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