Next Spurs manager mega-thread

[parklane1]

But we are in a posistion where decent is not going to do us any good, we need better.

 

[indianspur]

But we are in a posistion where decent is not going to do us any good, we need better.

true, but we are still going to find it difficult to attract a top manager. There are not many around and the ones who are would never come to Spurs (Ferguson, Hiddink, Mourinho, Guardiola etc)

and to be honest there is no magic formula when it comes to a new manager. I mean, who on earth would have expected 'decent' manager Harry Redknapp to come in at Spurs and take us into the top 4, a CL campaign ending in the quarters, possible top 3 this season. He wasnt a top manager before us, a decent record despite a long career in management, but certainly no great shakes. In fact 90% of Spurs were completely shocked when he got the job and really didnt expect much from him.

so quite realistically Levy could go out and bring in a not so big name, possibly a manager with experience, possibly without experience, maybe a Brit, or maybe a foreigner,he could be a manager with good footballing principles, he could be a manager with more of a defensive mentality, and to be honest we really have no idea how well that man will do.

the new man is important, but so is keeping our best players, so is building again and buying even better new ones, so is having that bit of luck that all top sides have

 

[Modric THFC]

Mate, we are Tottenham, he wouldn't last 6 months, the first blip of bad results watching the dire brick his teams play and people will be screaming for his head.

Just like they were screaming for Redknapp to go less than 12 months ago.
Levy hired Redknapp because he was reliable low risk and a successful man manager.
I reckon this will be the formula he'll go for again.

 

[Modric THFC]

But we are in a posistion where decent is not going to do us any good, we need better.

There will be a lot of clubs in the look out for a new manager in the summer. Chelsea, us, potentially City, Real and Liverpool. Its not gonna be as easy as that.

 

[Raziel]

There will be a lot of clubs in the look out for a new manager in the summer. Chelsea, us, potentially City, Real and Liverpool. Its not gonna be as easy as that.

Pool will stick with the dinosaur they have, too stupid to admit/know when they have fudged up
City will keep Mancini, their owners unlike Real/Cheat$ki seem to have patience.
Whoever Real is in for is probably European, who hasn't done the shift before (how many left?)
Cheat$ki will be interesting, poison chalice, and highly dependant on if they get a CL spot.

Spurs is not a bigger draw than any of those, but we will be nogiating from avery different position from the time we offered Harry the post.

I still believe, whatever Rogers qualities, Spurs is too much for him right now, much as Cheat$k was for AVB.

 

[parklane1]

There will be a lot of clubs in the look out for a new manager in the summer. Chelsea, us, potentially City, Real and Liverpool. Its not gonna be as easy as that.

Well nothing is easy, but there are better then MON (imo) and that was my first point.

 

[zin]

Just on Rodgers, I thought it was a lovely touch putting Mark Gower on for the last minute, he finally got to play at WHL.

 

[jimmyb]

Just on Rodgers, I thought it was a lovely touch putting Mark Gower on for the last minute, he finally got to play at WHL.

Played there for Southend in a couple of cup games a few years ago, didn't he?

Maybe you mean his first Premier League game at WHL?

 

[The Moonlit Knight]

Mate, we are Tottenham, he wouldn't last 6 months, the first blip of bad results watching the dire brick his teams play and people will be screaming for his head.

Would you take Mourinho?

 

[metalgear]

I'd take Mourinho or Rodgers. No one else.

 

[zin]

Played there for Southend in a couple of cup games a few years ago, didn't he?

Maybe you mean his first Premier League game at WHL?

Ah, yes did not realise he played for Southend in the CC and FA Cup against us. Fair enough.

 

[BrainOfLevy]

Pool will stick with the dinosaur they have, too stupid to admit/know when they have fudged up
City will keep Mancini, their owners unlike Real/Cheat$ki seem to have patience.
Whoever Real is in for is probably European, who hasn't done the shift before (how many left?)
Cheat$ki will be interesting, poison chalice, and highly dependant on if they get a CL spot.

Spurs is not a bigger draw than any of those, but we will be nogiating from avery different position from the time we offered Harry the post.

I still believe, whatever Rogers qualities, Spurs is too much for him right now, much as Cheat$k was for AVB.

I think Rodgers can hack it. He wouldn't be charged with rebuilding our entire squad, having to shift out the veterans but still relying on them to get CL football before sacking them off. He also wouldn't be charged with changing the style of football and having pricks like Ashley Cole saying 'I'll never win anything with your tactics.'

Rodgers would come in, probably as manager of the year, and largely continue the good work the club has been doing under Harry. With Harry, the aim is to play good football but we can mix it up from game to game. The difference is Rodgers would implement a system - but it's one that suits us anyway. Rodgers already would have the players here to play his system so it would be great for continuity. I really can't see why he'd fail.

 

[The Moonlit Knight]

I'd like to see Rodgers have three years in the Premiership before we went for him personally. Three successful years. There have been many cases where a Manager has had a team do blindingly well one season, only then to falter. George Burley, Mike Walker etc.

 

[Jurgen the German]

Gotta love Brendan Rodgers quote regarding the Chelsea job "I am trying to build my career and not destroy it.' :ross:

If we can't get Mourinho (don't think we will tbh), then Rodgers would be my choice.

The only thing about Rodgers that worries me is will players like Modric stick around if he's our manager?

But I think players like Bale would welcome him, he talked glowingly about Swansea's style of play and he'd almost certainly use the same methods at Spurs.

Put it this way, I'd take Rodgers over Capello, Benitez or Tim Sherwood.

 

[nayimfromthehalfwayline]

The thing is I equate it to work.

I dont read peoples CVs, thats the boss' job.

When a new team member comes in, a 5 minute conversation and Im convinced whether or not he knows what he is talking about or not.

If Rodgers came in (as an example) I would imagine in no time at all the players would have an idea of the man, and whether or not they want to work with him. Rather than simply looking at his record...

 

[chancer]

Here's a question: How come Rodgers can get a whole squad of average players to pass the ball with accuracy so consistently?

I'm really baffled by passing. It's quite regularly that you'd see Premiership clubs literally incapable of putting together more than 5 passes in the half of a game. I'm left scratching my head that such fundamental skills - controlling the ball and kicking it! - can so often go missing. But that doesn't seem to happen with Swansea, even in games they lose or play badly in. What's all that about? What does Brendan know that Martinez, McLeish and Hughes don't?

 

[indianspur]

Here's a question: How come Rodgers can get a whole squad of average players to pass the ball with accuracy so consistently?

I'm really baffled by passing. It's quite regularly that you'd see Premiership clubs literally incapable of putting together more than 5 passes in the half of a game. I'm left scratching my head that such fundamental skills - controlling the ball and kicking it! - can so often go missing. But that doesn't seem to happen with Swansea, even in games they lose or play badly in. What's all that about? What does Brendan know that Martinez, McLeish and Hughes don't?

Martinez? why is his name there? He was the one who laid the whole foundations for this passing game at Swansea, and his Wigan team is known for wanting to pass and move at all times

 

[indianspur]

Here's a question: How come Rodgers can get a whole squad of average players to pass the ball with accuracy so consistently?

I'm really baffled by passing. It's quite regularly that you'd see Premiership clubs literally incapable of putting together more than 5 passes in the half of a game. I'm left scratching my head that such fundamental skills - controlling the ball and kicking it! - can so often go missing. But that doesn't seem to happen with Swansea, even in games they lose or play badly in. What's all that about? What does Brendan know that Martinez, McLeish and Hughes don't?

obviously a lot of work on the training ground, but Rodgers himself has admitted that he has told his players not to be frightened of losing the ball, to pass without fear, and that the Swansea crowd also play a big part in this. They dont get on the backs of the players if they lose the ball, and all this gives the players an amazing confidence and allows them to play the passing game so effectively.

ive heard some tottenham fans say that they couldnt bear to see these triangle moves and passes, passing for the sake of passing etc well if thats the attitude then if Rodgers or any manager tried to implement this style at Spurs, there is no way we would be successful.

Its takes time and patience for such a style to really pay off

 

[braineclipse]

Here's a question: How come Rodgers can get a whole squad of average players to pass the ball with accuracy so consistently?

I'm really baffled by passing. It's quite regularly that you'd see Premiership clubs literally incapable of putting together more than 5 passes in the half of a game. I'm left scratching my head that such fundamental skills - controlling the ball and kicking it! - can so often go missing. But that doesn't seem to happen with Swansea, even in games they lose or play badly in. What's all that about? What does Brendan know that Martinez, McLeish and Hughes don't?

They consistently bring in only players that have good close control and can pass the ball. Then some good coaching I assume, and then a system and philosophy.

Read about how they had spent a very long time identifying their goalkeeper target this summer before they found/decided on Vorm, because they needed a goalkeeper with great distribution to fit their system. Similarly they also brought in Caulker who is very good and calm on the ball. You see it with the loan signing of McEchran as well I suppose. This is crucial, if you have just 1-2 players that can't pass and control the ball well it gets a lot easier for opponents to close you down and force you into long balls. I would guess you would never see Rodgers bring in Bassong or Palacios for example.

Of course there is a cost associated with this, and for Swansea who don't have the finances to bring in truly top class players it limits who they can sign quite a bit, and seemingly they end up with players that have other weaknesses, compared to a team like Stoke that will accept poor passing and close control. For example their full backs look quite average, especially when defending and Vorm, although good, is a bit short and we scored twice from a cross and a corner that was headed in from quite a bit inside the 6-yard box where other goalkeepers might have come for the ball.

 

[Modric THFC]

obviously a lot of work on the training ground, but Rodgers himself has admitted that he has told his players not to be frightened of losing the ball, to pass without fear, and that the Swansea crowd also play a big part in this. They dont get on the backs of the players if they lose the ball, and all this gives the players an amazing confidence and allows them to play the passing game so effectively.

ive heard some tottenham fans say that they couldnt bear to see these triangle moves and passes, passing for the sake of passing etc well if thats the attitude then if Rodgers or any manager tried to implement this style at Spurs, there is no way we would be successful.

Its takes time and patience for such a style to really pay off

He doesn't stand a chance at Spurs.