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Next Spurs manager mega-thread

who would it be?

  • Jose Mourinho

    Votes: 110 48.0%
  • Guus Hiddink

    Votes: 29 12.7%
  • Louis Van Gaal

    Votes: 3 1.3%
  • David Moyes

    Votes: 20 8.7%
  • Brendan Rodgers

    Votes: 40 17.5%
  • Alan Pardew

    Votes: 3 1.3%
  • Tim Owl Face Sherwood

    Votes: 3 1.3%
  • Fabio Capello

    Votes: 3 1.3%
  • Seb Bassong

    Votes: 3 1.3%
  • Sandra Redknapp

    Votes: 15 6.6%

  • Total voters
    229
And even they would carry with them some risk. Its the nature of the beast, any manager appointment (much like player signming, though with less consequence) can go completely wrong.

The best you can do is try to vet them enough to mitigate the risk as much as possible (no such thing as completely)

IMO this doesnt mean necessarily just going for the man with the most medals. Its more about the man himself than any record for me.


This is true and even more so with our squad imo. Let's face it our squad is filled with a bunch of players that lack much fight and would probably moan and cry if told something they don't like or told something in a way they don't like. Managers like Jol and Redknapp succeded with us because of their good peoples skills. They seem to interact with the players more like mates than a typical manager/player relationship. Whereas managers like Graham, Gross, santini and Ramos appeared strict disciplinarians who had a more professional approach. No not professional...firm.

How sad that we have to actually consider what manager will successfully cater to the players big egos in order to get the very best out of them, but that's the way it is really. Mourinho and Hiddink have a history of building good relationships with their players, Rodgers looks a good motivator too. I think Lambert at Norwich also has this skill.
 
This is true and even more so with our squad imo. Let's face it our squad is filled with a bunch of players that lack much fight and would probably moan and cry if told something they don't like or told something in a way they don't like. Managers like Jol and Redknapp succeded with us because of their good peoples skills. They seem to interact with the players more like mates than a typical manager/player relationship. Whereas managers like Graham, Gross, santini and Ramos appeared strict disciplinarians who had a more professional approach. No not professional...firm.

How sad that we have to actually consider what manager will successfully cater to the players big egos in order to get the very best out of them, but that's the way it is really. Mourinho and Hiddink have a history of building good relationships with their players, Rodgers looks a good motivator too. I think Lambert at Norwich also has this skill.

That is Management 101 all over the world, regardless of what or who you're managing. The old way of players fearing managers has gone because even journeymen earn a fortune.
 
There's three main criteria I would look for in a manager:

1. Successful in more than one job. This proves that they can be successful in different scenarios and not only when everything is set up perfectly for them.
2. Has experience of successfully dealing with big egos. Not necessarily at a big club, but it could be a manager who got the best out of somebody considered to be problematic at a smaller club (eg - Redknapp with Di Canio).
3. Speaks English fluently.
 
Levy will go all out for Rodgers, get turned down, and then will choose from Martinez or Poyet
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17566102

Swansea manager Brendan Rodgers cool on Spurs link

"Harry is Tottenham manager, he is clearly a candidate for the England job, but at this moment he is Tottenham manager and to speculate about him coming out of there and someone going in while he is in a job, I don't think it's proper."

I quite liked that interview, reading the headline I thought he had said something along the lines of it being disrespectful towards Swansea to talk about him replacing Redknapp, but he only talked about us and Reknapp really.
 
Dyer on Rodgers in todays sun

"But when Brendan Rodgers came in everything clicked into place."There are no big-time Charlies at this club, just a unified belief that is present throughout the club. Everyone has written us off but then we got written off in the Championship twice and the critics said we would be lucky to escape relegation."So the stigma of being written off has been with us for a long time and doesn't really worry us."I think coming up through the play-offs didn't give us a break either because everyone seems to presume the club that takes that route up to the Premier League is a sure fire bet to go down. But we have shocked people because we have played football and stuck to our beliefs."We haven't adopted a new style to try and survive. When we went to Liverpool we got a round of applause from their supporters — and not many promoted teams can say that."We have belief in the way we play and we play the right way."It's hard for teams to score goals against you if they don't have the ball. Brendan Rodgers has done a great job and got the balance right."He's a fantastic coach, old school if you like, who explains himself and knows how to manage players and expectations."It's inevitable that someone is going to come calling for him at some point but I would be devastated if he leaves and so would the other players."It would be a massive setback if he decided to leave."
 
You know that if every single "Top 4" club took this attitude of not employing anyone who isn't a "Top 4" manager then in a generation's time none of the "Top 4" clubs would have a manager ... you have to take a chance somewhere. It only really seems to be in England where people hold this opinion, in Spain and Italy for example most of the managers at the top clubs have gotten there through the club either promoting them from within or taking a "chance" on a manager performing well at a smaller side.
 
More I think about it the more I think Rodgers is the man.

Obviously if we can get Mourinho, we should go for him. Sell him on the challenge of doing it without the mega funds of Chelsea and proving himself as one of the greats that way, show he isn't just a chequebook manager.

But if not, Rodgers is the clear choice.

Knows the Premier League. Has big club experience with Chelsea and has seen how Mourinho handles big name players and so shouldn't have that problem himself. Tactically sound, and is the type of modern coach where the system makes the team function more than the individual parts together. If he can take Swansea to the top half, whose to say he can't have us challenging? The system he employs would give us the edge.

I think it's more than just a good first season for a promoted club. As Dyer says, Liverpool fans applauded them off the pitch because they simply play so well. They aren't reckless like Blackpool, and balance fluent possession football with defensive solidarity. Simply put, why wouldn't he be able to do that here? I'm sure the players will be happy playing good football. I think he's a managerial talent, and if we snap him up he could be our Wenger, he could impart his philosophy on the club and build a dynasty for years.

Sure, there were less sparkling spells at Reading and Watford, but they were both short spells. Maybe it's clear what he needed - a club that wanted to play good football and the players to do it. Swansea already had that grounding with Martinez and so the manager and the club clicked. And why wouldn't Rodgers and Spurs click? We want to play good football. Imagine Modric instead of Britton, Bale instead of Sinclair, Lennon instead of Routledge, (potentially) Adebayor instead of Graham. Caulker and King in our back line, comfortable receiving the ball under pressure and playing out of defence. We are a perfect fit, and I can't see why it wouldn't work. Maybe the only reason would be that our players don't warm to him, but they don't seem to be the type of big-time tacos like at Chelsea where they will simply decide not to listen to a young manager. Rodgers would be good for Spurs and everything seems to suit.

There are other candidates. Moyes may be good, he may get some success with us, and has a winning mentality. But the style of football may see more unrest with the fans and that wouldn't be healthy for the atmosphere. I also think Lambert is a seriously good managerial talent, but it may be too soon for him. The only thing against Rodgers is that he needs to prove it's not just a good first season. But I think to get someone special we need to take a gamble, and in any case you need to look at why he is successful? Is he playing reckless football like Blackpool and getting lucky in a lot of games? No. Is he playing a defensive, ugly, Stoke or Bolton style of football to frustrate teams because his players are inferior? No. His players by all rights should be inferior, but he has gotten the right ones, playing in roles that suit them, over performing and playing great football.

Rodgers is the man for us. I hope we get him before Chelsea.
 
Rodgers would be top of the second tier. The top tier being the likes of Mourinho, Kloop, Blanc, Low and Capello.

I wonder if Rodgers would be tempted by a #2 role alongside an established manager?
 
Rodgers would be top of the second tier. The top tier being the likes of Mourinho, Kloop, Blanc, Low and Capello.

I wonder if Rodgers would be tempted by a #2 role alongside an established manager?


Why would he want to be a #2 when he is doing well as a #1 with Swansea? Seems extremely arrogant to think he would.
 
I don't really know what Swansea's finances are like, but are there really any "intermediate" clubs that he'd clearly consider as a step up from Swansea?
 
Rodgers would be top of the second tier. The top tier being the likes of Mourinho, Kloop, Blanc, Low and Capello.

I wonder if Rodgers would be tempted by a #2 role alongside an established manager?

Agree with that. Would much prefer Rodgers to people like Moyes and Martinez and also ahead of Poyet, given he's done it in the PL. However, prefer would still be a genuinely top class manager who has had success in European competitions and/or a top European league - big advantage of someone with that profile is that they would be more able to keep people like Modric, VdV and Bale, more able to attract other top players and a greater probbability of success
 
I don't really know what Swansea's finances are like, but are there really any "intermediate" clubs that he'd clearly consider as a step up from Swansea?

i think it's crap when people say a manager needs to prove himself at a "intermediate club". it's hard enough for a club in our position to break the top 4 let alone clubs the 'tier below' - im using the top 4 as an benchmark here because that would be what some people would require from a manager like Rodgers to achieve before they took him seriously - which IMO is an un realistic target. you don't need to be achieving at that end of the table to show you are a good manager who has the ability to succeed at a bigger club - there are plenty of other things to take in to account and there are plenty of attributes that managers like Rodgers have displayed whilst managing at 'a lower level' that suggest they have what it takes
 
I dont think he needs to take an intermediate club before us (if we were offered, of course), just that he me might see it as an opportunity to deal with a bigger club, bigger finances, bigger expectations... Another step in his career, thats all
 
Rodgers would be top of the second tier. The top tier being the likes of Mourinho, Kloop, Blanc, Low and Capello.

I wonder if Rodgers would be tempted by a #2 role alongside an established manager?

Blanc? Seriously? On what grounds? Where has he earned this top tier tag? The French league, or as it's more commonly known "Le fudging Corrupt Joke"?

Surely AVB is in your top tier?
 
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