Next Manager?

[Robspur12]

Yep, there is a lot of gonad*s talked about how Jose ruined our team, the same team that was brick at the end under Poch ( after all that was why he was sacked). Not defending Jose here but its madness/ biased to think all the problems did not exist until Jose got the job.

It's not the same team though. No Eriksen, Rose and he booted out Dele bringing in Bale, Bergywn Vinicius, Rodon and Reguillon. He continued to play Bergywn too when he is clearly a level below Dele. There were different squad problems before Jose. He then brought a whole load of his own.

 

[parklane1]

It's not the same team though. No Eriksen, Rose and he booted out Dele bringing in Bale, Bergywn Vinicius, Rodon and Reguillon. He continued to play Bergywn too when he is clearly a level below Dele. There were different squad problems before Jose. He brought a whole load of his own.

Poch was sacked because the team was failing, just because your opinion of players is different then others does not change that. I am not defending Jose but i wish s ome fans will stop believing that Poch had not lost the plot as well.

 

[Robspur12]

Poch was sacked because the team was failing, just because your opinion of players is different then others does not change that. I am not defending Jose but i wish s ome fans will stop believing that Poch had not lost the plot as well.

What has Poch's mental state got to do with my post or your assertion about quality of the squad? I think you might have misunderstood me? Are you saying we were struggling under Poch because he had lost the plot or poor squad quality? If it is the former how do you then claim that a perfectly sane Mourinho, ( I assume) has the same issues with the squad?

 

[Reece]

Still no leaks, where's those pesky ITKs when you need them!?

I don't know if ITK's are well respected but... a well respected one has said today Rodgers is interested!

 

[Kandi1977]

The players fitness is a level or two below where it used to be

That should not be blamed on the coach! When I was around 14-15 years old, we didn't spend a minute in training on strength, stamina etc. That was each and every players personal responsibility, and it bloody should be for these spoilt brats too! If you as a professional, overpaid footballer, or any other athlete, can't keep yourself in the required fitness level, then you should not be a professional athlete! That's the fudging minimum requirement!

 

[parklane1]

What has Poch's mental state got to do with my post or your assertion about quality of the squad? I think you might have misunderstood me? Are you saying we were struggling under Poch because he had lost the plot or poor squad quality? If it is the former how do you then claim that a perfectly sane Mourinho, ( I assume) has the same issues with the squad?

Mental state what the hell are you on about no idea where that came from Poch had lost the plot about how to turn round the bad run we were on, there was also talk going around that he had lost some of the players as well. The point is we were going downhill at the end of Pochs time here and it continued under Jose and Mason and there is no doubt in most fans that is what happened. Blaming it ALL on Jose is biased ( imo);

And i say that as a big fan of Pooch and thought his sacking was wrong at the time it happened.

 

[Kandi1977]

Cheer up!
We don't know what's going to happen. Stop upsetting yourself.

Exactly! Also, no one is irreplaceable. It will be difficult to replace Kane, but we were a top side that played well and scored plenty of goals before Kane was any good, and we will even when the the time comes that Kane leaves or retires. When one player is gone, another one steps forward.

 

[Legohamster]

As I keep on saying.... Poor planning and management from the very top. The fact nobody was lined up to replace Jose indicates that sacking him was purely due to it being perceived as financially advantageous.

Made zero sense to sack Jose before the summer unless we had someone else lined up.

sacking him before the final was mind blowing

we had beaten city 2 out of 3 with him in charge.

I assume the new manager is not being announced before the end of the season now, can’t let this drag on.

 

[AjaxDeSuperYids]

Made zero sense to sack Jose before the summer unless we had someone else lined up.

sacking him before the final was mind blowing

we had beaten city 2 out of 3 with him in charge.

I assume the new manager is not being announced before the end of the season now, can’t let this drag on.

I think he did it cos he thought he had a shot at getting nagelsmann and perhaps sacked jose to prove how serious they were to appoint him.

Little did we know the little bastard was using us to get the bayern job.

 

[Legohamster]

I think he did it cos he thought he had a shot at getting nagelsmann and perhaps sacked jose to prove how serious they were to appoint him.

Little did we know the little bastard was using us to get the bayern job.

He could have done all that before, like he’s done a few times in the past.

 

[Finney Is Back]

That should not be blamed on the coach! When I was around 14-15 years old, we didn't spend a minute in training on strength, stamina etc. That was each and every players personal responsibility, and it bloody should be for these spoilt brats too! If you as a professional, overpaid footballer, or any other athlete, can't keep yourself in the required fitness level, then you should not be a professional athlete! That's the fudging minimum requirement!

Sorry but elite level fitness doesn't tend to be achieved by personal responsibility.

 

[DubSpur]

That should not be blamed on the coach! When I was around 14-15 years old, we didn't spend a minute in training on strength, stamina etc. That was each and every players personal responsibility, and it bloody should be for these spoilt brats too! If you as a professional, overpaid footballer, or any other athlete, can't keep yourself in the required fitness level, then you should not be a professional athlete! That's the fudging minimum requirement!

Makes you wonder why all the clubs employ fitness coaches, waste of time and money if a 14-15 year old can keep himself up to a fitness level to play amateur sports...

 

[Dicko]

Made zero sense to sack Jose before the summer unless we had someone else lined up.

sacking him before the final was mind blowing

we had beaten city 2 out of 3 with him in charge.

I assume the new manager is not being announced before the end of the season now, can’t let this drag on.

I think once Levy had finally decided to get rid of Jose (Probably around the Zagreb debacle) he then negotiated a deal with a new manager who was in a job until the end of season, but things got worse or something happened that made him bring forward the sacking. Just a guess, could be a number of reasons and we might never find out.

 

[SteveAWOL]

The key thing with Potter is that people think his team performances have been way better than the results suggest, at least this season. I.e. they create loads of chances, but don't take them because of the quality of their forwards. Partly I think that's based on people watching Brighton with their own eyes. But also if you're the kind of person who takes any notice of xG, they're 5th in the league based on quality of chances for and against:

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What was the xG for Pochettino’s Southampton side?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1388528343088238592

 

[SteveAWOL]

When Mourinho was sacked we was 5 points off top 4 having got most of the more difficult fixtures out of the way and in a cup final. Look where we are now....

But at least the players’ auras are in much better shape now that they have a mate as manager who won’t dare say nasty things to them, unlike that beastly Moaninho!

 

[Kandi1977]

Makes you wonder why all the clubs employ fitness coaches, waste of time and money if a 14-15 year old can keep himself up to a fitness level to play amateur sports...

Plans, Guidelines, type of exercises etc. should be managed by the fitness coaches, but the in the end its the players responsibility, or should be. Individual athletes manage it, so why shouldn't football players?

 

[DubSpur]

Plans, Guidelines, type of exercises etc. should be managed by the fitness coaches, but the in the end its the players responsibility, or should be. Individual athletes manage it, so why shouldn't football players?

Individual athletes don't, no top sports person manages their fitness, they have a team around them.
Sports science and fitness requires a specialist, it's way beyond the knowledge of a footballer or any sports person.
Of course it needs the buy in from the athlete but they need the guidance and instructions of a proper fitness coach.
If you think it's just a matter of giving out a list of exercises for the player to do you're about 30 years behind where
sports science is.

 

[Coys911]

Who would you like?

I reckon we're getting Ragenick as DoF and whoever he wants as coach.

Or the Ajax boss hopefully not Brendan

 

[thfcsteff]

But at least the players’ auras are in much better shape now that they have a mate as manager who won’t dare say nasty things to them, unlike that beastly Moaninho!

He failed mate. He failed because he was actually a bricky busted flush. I expected him to deliver, I bought it even though I hated the bloke, and he managed to fail spectacularly - twice. Never forget, he crashed out of the CL last season too (injuries, yeah, we've had those in previous seasons too). Again (and unreservedly) fudge him!

 

[Kandi1977]

Individual athletes don't, no top sports person manages their fitness, they have a team around them.
Sports science and fitness requires a specialist, it's way beyond the knowledge of a footballer or any sports person.
Of course it needs the buy in from the athlete but they need the guidance and instructions of a proper fitness coach.
If you think it's just a matter of giving out a list of exercises for the player to do you're about 30 years behind where
sports science is.

Maybe they should hire some more people to actually do the training for them...

And yes, many top individual athletes do a lot of the training by themselves. They have a plan and a schedule, and they follow it. They don't need anyone to get them to do it, as they know what it takes to be at the top.
I know one top from athlete track and field, who has Olympic, EC, WC medals, and he does about 50% of the training by himself.