Jose Mourinho - SACKED

[StephenH]

I dont doubt that you have seen his history of trophies and signings in the transfer market. Its a complete myth that he is a cheque book manager. He was sensational at Porto and inter with not the biggest of budgets. He spent within his remit at real, Chelsea and United. Clubs that their cash around regardless of manager.

If you dont believe me just go on the net and look for yourself.

It will be interesting to see how we attempt to replenish our squad for whoever is the manager!
It's going to be tight for us for a couple of seasons.

 

[AdamB]

Good trophy haul with the squad he had was phenomenal. The transfers he made were skewed by pogba who was trouble. Pogba was amazing in the world Cup and sensational for juventus. It became the Mourinho vs pogba show.

I'd take his trophy haul at united right now.

I just dont think we'll see it. Fair enough - you like Jose and are defending him. I take a very different view in that I believe he will fail here in the next year or so in the same way which he failed at Utd within 2-3 years and we're already on that path downwards now. I'd like to see him go asap and would be happy for us to lose our next 4-5 games if it meant we were rid of him. Nothing against him as a person -however his football is desperately bad and only worth it if you're going to be top 4 and winning trophies. I dont think he'll acheive that so would prefer he's out asap before our brand and image if ruined and more players are alientate. Would be nice for the new guy to have more years of Kane and Son

All entitled to our opinions though and accept you're a fan of his

 

[AdamB]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1356626565245898752

embarrassing

 

[billyiddo]

embarrassing

It's the defenders fault

 

[Gazza]

I just dont think we'll see it. Fair enough - you like Jose and are defending him. I take a very different view in that I believe he will fail here in the next year or so in the same way which he failed at Utd within 2-3 years and we're already on that path downwards now. I'd like to see him go asap and would be happy for us to lose our next 4-5 games if it meant we were rid of him. Nothing against him as a person -however his football is desperately bad and only worth it if you're going to be top 4 and winning trophies. I dont think he'll acheive that so would prefer he's out asap before our brand and image if ruined and more players are alientate. Would be nice for the new guy to have more years of Kane and Son

All entitled to our opinions though and accept you're a fan of his

Respectfully, I don't enjoy Mourinho being at spurs. However to blame him solely and looking for any opportunity to slate him is devisive and doesn't sit well with me.

These are the same people that wanted ndombele out in the summer, blame and shout at any opportunity.

If we want success then we could do alot worse than Mourinho. If he has his team in place and fails then like pochettino there is a genuine case to oust him. But to simply go by not wanting him here coz some don't like him is silly.

Levy brought him here and its up to levy to deliver the support required to make it a success. Otherwise its just another transition.

I'm all up for dismissing Mourinho, but the core of the problem lays with the same players and pawns that were here before he turned up.

 

[parklane1]

Freezing what 7 starters out of the team? Maybe dele is a spacegoat but rose is no angel. Using one player as a standard across the board is silly.

It wouldn't matter what happens, you just want mourinho out regardless.

You are wasting your breath mate, its so bloody obvious.

 

[Bishop]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1356626565245898752

Bloody hell this is fudging awful. Everyone needs to see this, we clueless in attack.

I knew it was bad but seeing it laid out it's actually quite depressing.

 

[AdamB]

Respectfully, I don't enjoy Mourinho being at spurs. However to blame him solely and looking for any opportunity to slate him is devisive and doesn't sit well with me.

These are the same people that wanted ndombele out in the summer, blame and shout at any opportunity.

If we want success then we could do alot worse than Mourinho. If he has his team in place and fails then like pochettino there is a genuine case to oust him. But to simply go by not wanting him here coz some don't like him is silly.

Levy brought him here and its up to levy to deliver the support required to make it a success. Otherwise its just another transition.

I'm all up for dismissing Mourinho, but the core of the problem lays with the same players and pawns that were here before he turned up.

Per our exchange in another thread, I dont buy the 'its the players fault'. We have enough good players.

We're missing a decent CB pairings but the way Jose wants us to play is completely contrary to the squad's strengths. We need a manager who will play a system to get the best out of the players

And thats before you get on to the painful way of playing. We're appalling to watch - most of the PL are better to watch than us - and I cant accept that unless he has us top 4

 

[billyiddo]

Bloody hell this is fudging awful. Everyone needs to see this, we clueless in attack.

I knew it was bad but seeing it laid out it's actually quite depressing.

Try this one on for size :

Spurs have failed to have at least 10 shots in 22 of Jose's 46 PL games in charge. Only West Brom (15) and Sheffield United (13) have failed to reach double figures for shots in more games than Spurs (12) in 2020/21

Defence are at it again

 

[Gazza]

Per our exchange in another thread, I dont buy the 'its the players fault'. We have enough good players.

We're missing a decent CB pairings but the way Jose wants us to play is completely contrary to the squad's strengths. We need a manager who will play a system to get the best out of the players

And thats before you get on to the painful way of playing. We're appalling to watch - most of the PL are better to watch than us - and I cant accept that unless he has us top 4

I can seriously see why fans are disgruntled with Mourinho, but just trawl through the player threads and you can see every single player bar the obvious bring slated week in week out and that was before Mourinho.

We are desperate for a solid CB pairing it's priority regardless of Mourinho, a world class keeper is also needed regardless of Mourinho.

However give Mourinho a CB pairing like prime alder and verts, historically it will show that Mourinho will play attacking football based on a solid defensive pairing.

None of our defensive players make it into any top 4 teams. Put Mourinho into a genuine top four team, there is every chance he wins the league.

 

[thfcsteff]

I can seriously see why fans are disgruntled with Mourinho, but just trawl through the player threads and you can see every single player bar the obvious bring slated week in week out and that was before Mourinho.

We are desperate for a solid CB pairing it's priority regardless of Mourinho, a world class keeper is also needed regardless of Mourinho.

However give Mourinho a CB pairing like prime alder and verts, historically it will show that Mourinho will play attacking football based on a solid defensive pairing.

None of our defensive players make it into any top 4 teams. Put Mourinho into a genuine top four team, there is every chance he wins the league.

Not unless he adapts his style, or at least entertains other ways of playing along with his own. Who's won the Prem playing his exact style of football recently?

 

[harr1984]

Per our exchange in another thread, I dont buy the 'its the players fault'. We have enough good players.

We're missing a decent CB pairings but the way Jose wants us to play is completely contrary to the squad's strengths. We need a manager who will play a system to get the best out of the players

And thats before you get on to the painful way of playing. We're appalling to watch - most of the PL are better to watch than us - and I cant accept that unless he has us top 4

You can keep saying we have good enough players as much as you want, the evidence of threads on this forum suggest otherwise. Sanchez,Dier,Sissoko,Lamela,Lucas are just some of the players people have constantly moaned about for GHod knows how long. They are consistently still getting game time, we barely have a fit first XI so we have to use the squad and these players weren’t good enough under Poch and they aren’t now....

 

[harr1984]

Not unless he adapts his style, or at least entertains other ways of playing along with his own. Who's won the Prem playing his exact style of football recently?

No teams style is exactly the same, but I’d say Leicesters came pretty close. Defended deep, played on the break, one main attacking strategy of over the top to Vardy.....

 

[elltrev]

You can keep saying we have good enough players as much as you want, the evidence of threads on this forum suggest otherwise. Sanchez,Dier,Sissoko,Lamela,Lucas are just some of the players people have constantly moaned about for GHod knows how long. They are consistently still getting game time, we barely have a fit first XI so we have to use the squad and these players weren’t good enough under Poch and they aren’t now....

To be fair Jose has mostly been choosing to give at least some of those guys gametime, over Toby / Alli / Bale.

 

[harr1984]

To be fair Jose has mostly been choosing to give at least some of those guys gametime, over Toby / Alli / Bale.

Toby is another one I could have put on the list,Bale I don’t think was truly his signing and can see why he isn’t picked anyway. Dele I agree I would hope to see more of. As has been said since the Poch days, this squad needs an overhaul and beyond our starting XI there aren’t many who would truly be missed - until we sort this, whoever is manager will have issues....

 

[LutonSpurs]

People who want Jose to stay, are you really comfortable watching us right now? Think on this, it is over a year on and he has got Levy to spend, he has isolated those he doesn't like, he has not got a set formation nor has he worked out his best defensive 4/5, our style has devolved rather than evolved, simplistic counter attack stuff, we are not good at defending. All of this looks like it is not going in any positive direction. Who do we hold accountable as fans other than Jose? And what will it take to say this is crap and we are back to where Poch left us but the manager has the players he wanted for the most part?

 

[Diamond Lights]

interesting as the Man Utd fanbase was hugely divided over Jose towards the end. There were those who loved him and slated the players, and there were those that slated him and blamed him.

Clearly, the same happening on our side now.

I have backed Jose since day 1 (despite my love of Poch), but it's been 14+ months now and around 9 players i think he has brought in, and i don't see any difference? Now you can say "but it's the players who are poor" but again, look at Leicester, look at Man U? Our squads on par with them. We have Kane, Son, Ndombele, Dele, Reguilon, Hjojbjerg and a constantly injured Lo Celso along with Bergwijn and Moura and others.

We have no attacking threat whatsoever. Every game, week in week out. That's down to tactical instructions not the players.

So i think it is possible to criticise Jose for that. I also worry his style of management, throwing people under the bus doesn't work in the modern era. Look at United now, flying. I dont agree it "worked with Ndombele" - his was a fitness issue but his ability was there for all to see from day 1. Now Dele the same.

I wanted Jose to succeed and stuff it in peoples faces, at Spurs, what a story. But i'm sorry, i dont think it's working. and i don't think the players do too now. A lot is resting on the Chelsea game but right now, doesn't seem the players are playing to save their manager's bacon.

 

[Gazza]

The thing is the mood isn’t borne out purely about how we sit now, as on paper it isn’t that bad and if that is the same at the end of the season then Jose will still be here.

my fear, based on the last dozen games is we are regressing. When we were conceding goals after taking the lead, I was still optimistic this was something Jose would address, and as things solidified we’d perhaps pick up more goals as teams becomes more desperate to equalise. The issue now is the instead of going 1-0 up and not always hanging on is we are now going behind and not hitting back. Without Kane our attacking play is looking more fractured and the shuffling of defensive personnel, including a couple who have been trusted for most matches to date makes me question how we can improve performances and results with some difficult matches coming up.

Regardless of the aesthetics of the performance, the PPG for the season is acceptable but the PPG for the last 9 games isn’t, so depending whether the trend continues or reverses will determine whether Mourinho gets the season. The Europa league would be amazing but I’m sure he’d get the chance to play all of the games if we crash right down the table, as that usually goes hand in hand with losing the players.

Every team in the league has gone around the same number of games off form. Its up to the squad and Jose to retrieve the situation. He has earned the right to make me believe that he is capable of stringing together some results in our favour

 

[braineclipse]

People who want Jose to stay, are you really comfortable watching us right now? Think on this, it is over a year on and he has got Levy to spend, he has isolated those he doesn't like, he has not got a set formation nor has he worked out his best defensive 4/5, our style has devolved rather than evolved, simplistic counter attack stuff, we are not good at defending. All of this looks like it is not going in any positive direction. Who do we hold accountable as fans other than Jose? And what will it take to say this is crap and we are back to where Poch left us but the manager has the players he wanted for the most part?

Not at all comfortable.

He has gotten Levy to spend quite a bit given the circumstances. Though Pochettino spent more in his last window than Mourinho has so far I think.

I think he deserves time to improve things. The question for me is how much time, that I don't have a good answer to.

He should be held responsible, no doubt. But the problems facing our team look more severe than they did to me a year and a half ago and I don't think all of that should be put on Mourinho.

 

[Baleforce]

People who want Jose to stay, are you really comfortable watching us right now? Think on this, it is over a year on and he has got Levy to spend, he has isolated those he doesn't like, he has not got a set formation nor has he worked out his best defensive 4/5, our style has devolved rather than evolved, simplistic counter attack stuff, we are not good at defending. All of this looks like it is not going in any positive direction. Who do we hold accountable as fans other than Jose? And what will it take to say this is crap and we are back to where Poch left us but the manager has the players he wanted for the most part?

Of course not, we are still conceding goals.

I don't see not having a set formation as a bad thing, there is a variation of styles across Europe, being adaptable is a strength.

I think this is a stage we need to go through, and the changes he's made to the squad have been solid improvements on the whole.

I am fully on board with being an ultra defensive team that uses the dark arts to win stuff, I've wanted us to try that for years. As I've said before, we've tried the pretty for decades, it never worked.