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Harry Kane MBE

At least we can count on Kane to score. We need to provider more chances for him though. Imagine him with proper deliveries, could've been another hat trick tonight.
 
Kane very rarely doesn't show up in any games. Even when he doesn't have many shooting/scoring chances or suffers bad fitness condition, he links a lot in our attacking third, falling behind and playing as a true 10. Today was another example of it. But what upsets me is that usually it happens not with the purpose of giving Alli/Son space and unexpected chances to score (like it happened f.e. last year at WHL against Chelsea etc), but because Alli and Eriksen keep loosing the ball and slowing down our positional attacks time after time. The moment when an attacking midfielder near him was quick enough to make an accurate through ball, he instantly scored. That what a striker should primarly do on the pitch. And some of Kane's teammates are currently letting him down.
 
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I'm going to do the relatively unthinkable and put out a negative on the current darling of English football.

It's something i've been wondering for a while, but reckon it'll face a hellish backlash.

Our dear ol' Harry Kane has been increasingly frustrating me lately with his need to fudging shoot at almost every occasion, when it is clear there are better options!!!!!!!!! Dare i say it...he's become almost TOO greedy.

I get that greed and hunger can be a great quality in a striker. And i get that he does also get his share of assists. But i've started to think these supposed goalscoring records being banded around everywhere are going to his head!

He's now shooting when he's well off balance, offering some tame effort. He doesn't get his head up and look around him, instead unleashing a wild shot. It's beginning to affect his role with Alli, who is looking more and more like a stranger rather than the partnership we saw last season. This in turn isn't helping Alli's form or demeanour which we've all picked up on.

I'm not saying bench him or sell him of course. And it's difficult to be so callous when he's still getting goals. But i can't help but feel the team would benefit overall if he ditched some of the pot shots in favour of retaining the ball to a team mate.
 
Ade's folks are ok really said:
I'm going to do the relatively unthinkable and put out a negative on the current darling of English football.

It's something i've been wondering for a while, but reckon it'll face a hellish backlash.

Our dear ol' Harry Kane has been increasingly frustrating me lately with his need to fudging shoot at almost every occasion, when it is clear there are better options!!!!!!!!! Dare i say it...he's become almost TOO greedy.

I get that greed and hunger can be a great quality in a striker. And i get that he does also get his share of assists. But i've started to think these supposed goalscoring records being banded around everywhere are going to his head!

He's now shooting when he's well off balance, offering some tame effort. He doesn't get his head up and look around him, instead unleashing a wild shot. It's beginning to affect his role with Alli, who is looking more and more like a stranger rather than the partnership we saw last season. This in turn isn't helping Alli's form or demeanour which we've all picked up on.

I'm not saying bench him or sell him of course. And it's difficult to be so callous when he's still getting goals. But i can't help but feel the team would benefit overall if he ditched some of the pot shots in favour of retaining the ball to a team mate.
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As one who on here has consistently been knocked for championing his supposed greediness (if you don't buy a ticket ..) I'd say too many will agree with you for my liking.

All I will say is be fudging careful what you wish for. Greed is not always good in a striker, but when they are as good at putting the ball in the back of the net as our Harry is I'd say you need to treasure him like you would your life savings.
 
I guess i'm just questioning some of his judgement calls right now. If there's nothing else on, by all means have a pot shot (tickets and raffles as you say). But when the team are building some sort of move or spell of possession, i'd like him to just curb it a little and utilise those around him.

It's not only the missed effort that bothers me, it's the side effect it has to those around him. The odd goal aside, him and Alli just haven't gelled again this season to good effect. Dele has assisted Harry a few times, but vice versa?? I wonder how much of that could be a breakdown in communication. That slight hesitancy from Dele that prevents him timing his run perfectly or drifting off his marker, as he sees Harry with his head down and just expects him to shoot regardless.
 
Saw a stat during yesterday's game that Kane has the most shots in the PL this season, with 79 (I think, at least somewhere in the 70s).

Number two was Salah. He has 49 shots.
 
Do we see xG at a player level for a particular game? I’m pretty sure I’ve only seen it at team level.
It would give some context around the number of shots.
 
Ade's folks are ok really said:
I'm going to do the relatively unthinkable and put out a negative on the current darling of English football.

It's something i've been wondering for a while, but reckon it'll face a hellish backlash.

Our dear ol' Harry Kane has been increasingly frustrating me lately with his need to fudging shoot at almost every occasion, when it is clear there are better options!!!!!!!!! Dare i say it...he's become almost TOO greedy.

I get that greed and hunger can be a great quality in a striker. And i get that he does also get his share of assists. But i've started to think these supposed goalscoring records being banded around everywhere are going to his head!

He's now shooting when he's well off balance, offering some tame effort. He doesn't get his head up and look around him, instead unleashing a wild shot. It's beginning to affect his role with Alli, who is looking more and more like a stranger rather than the partnership we saw last season. This in turn isn't helping Alli's form or demeanour which we've all picked up on.

I'm not saying bench him or sell him of course. And it's difficult to be so callous when he's still getting goals. But i can't help but feel the team would benefit overall if he ditched some of the pot shots in favour of retaining the ball to a team mate.
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Mate, same is said of Ronaldo, if you score 40+ a calendar year, you get to be as greedy as you fudging want. Did you see that top scorers for 2017 list? he's in elite company despite being the only one not in a "super club" that consistently rolls over brick clubs in their leagues (and gets to be part of regular 6-0/7-0 type scores).

Dele is a different story, out of form, even in form misses a sitter or two a game. Can't put that on Harry.

The real conversation would be are we too one dimensional? i.e. when a wide/midfielder has an option to pass, if Harry is not the best option, do we still go to Harry at too high a percentage rate, hence become too predictable. I can't answer that anecdotally, that's something the coaching staff will have to measure with real data and determine if we need to adjust.
 
@Ade's folks are ok really - let me put it this way, I trust him when he gets the ball more than I trust anyone else on the team. I don't trust Alli, I don't trust Eriksen, I definitely don't trust Son, and I don't trust anyone else on the team to the extent that I trust Kane when the ball gets to him. He will put it in - or at least shoot with more accuracy and consistent danger than the rest of the team put together.

If the trade off for that is a few more pot shots than are strictly necessary, I'll definitely take it over giving it to Alli or Eriksen to have *them* take much, much worse shots from the same ranges. I appreciate your point, but I disagree with it.
 
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Kane has one assist in thirteen league games this season, compared to one in four last season.

Now, it doesn't tell the whole story but it might be better for the team if he was a little less selfish at times.
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He also has a couple of assists in the CL but they're not included in the stats so of course it's as if they never happened.

But at any rate why should we judge him harshly on his assists count? He's a striker, his job is to put the ball in the back of the net. Or are we to demand that he passes up a scoring chance in the hope he can increase his assists count instead? Imagine it, he's about to pop the ball into the net but no he must hesitate and ask himself, 'h'mm now let me see ... who can I pass to in order to ... oh brick, the opportunities gone ... Oh well, c'est la vie.'

Seems there's no way he will ever satisfy SOME fans.
 
Kane has become an absolutely brilliant footballer. He comes deep and shows people how it is done; shoving defenders off the ball, turning and driving into the heart of the defence. He must get so frustrated watching the others fanny around and rooster it up time after time.
 
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