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Emmanuel Adebayor - Officially gone \o/
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Jurgen the German
Tommy Harmer
Jurgen the German
Tommy Harmer
Re: Adebayor
There's no reason why he can't train with the full squad whilst he regains his fitness. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't remember Kaboul being shunted down to the developement squad when he returned from injury.
I don't see any point to this move by AVB other than making it crystal clear that Adebayor is not in his future plans. Let's be honest, he had a shocking season last campaign, but he has flattered to deceive ever since he had that one truly great season at scum many years ago. My guess is he will end up at a club like Fulham, but we won't be able to get shot until next season at the least.
There's no reason why he can't train with the full squad whilst he regains his fitness. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't remember Kaboul being shunted down to the developement squad when he returned from injury.
I don't see any point to this move by AVB other than making it crystal clear that Adebayor is not in his future plans. Let's be honest, he had a shocking season last campaign, but he has flattered to deceive ever since he had that one truly great season at scum many years ago. My guess is he will end up at a club like Fulham, but we won't be able to get shot until next season at the least.
Jurgen the German
Tommy Harmer
Re: Adebayor
17 league goals is hardly elite is it? As many others have said, that was the season he was playing for his contract.
17 league goals is hardly elite is it? As many others have said, that was the season he was playing for his contract.
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indianspur
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Re: Adebayor
though it will leave us with Soldado, Defoe and Kane
thats scary if Soldado picks up a knock
id keep Ade till Jan and then let him leave on a free and get in a replacement. Fcuk knows who though
though it will leave us with Soldado, Defoe and Kane
thats scary if Soldado picks up a knock
id keep Ade till Jan and then let him leave on a free and get in a replacement. Fcuk knows who though
Jurgen the German
Tommy Harmer
Re: Adebayor
That's a good point, depth would be a problem if Soldado picks up an injury. I remember in January when Adebayor went to the ACN a lot people were saying "we don't need another striker, we have Sig, Ade, Defoe and Dempsey". Look how that turned out.
That's a good point, depth would be a problem if Soldado picks up an injury. I remember in January when Adebayor went to the ACN a lot people were saying "we don't need another striker, we have Sig, Ade, Defoe and Dempsey". Look how that turned out.
milo
Jack L. Jones
milo
Jack L. Jones
Re: Adebayor
I'd imagine that there is quite a lot of difference between integrating a player with the full squad with no pre-season now and integrating a player at the end of the season (which was ultimately unsuccessful and could have lead to a change of policy).
I'd imagine that there is quite a lot of difference between integrating a player with the full squad with no pre-season now and integrating a player at the end of the season (which was ultimately unsuccessful and could have lead to a change of policy).
Phil Silvers
Ricardo Rocha
Re: Adebayor
I assume there is a clause in his contract stopping any loans to the Championship?
Now we are stuck with him for how many years on how much a week?
Laughable
I assume there is a clause in his contract stopping any loans to the Championship?
Now we are stuck with him for how many years on how much a week?
Laughable
milo
Jack L. Jones
Re: Adebayor
I doubt it. There would be no need, a club cannot force a player to go on loan.
I doubt it. There would be no need, a club cannot force a player to go on loan.
Re: Adebayor
Kaboul was a different scenario. He was back at the start of pre season, finishing off his personalised plan specific to his rehab and was seperate to the rest of the squad until he was ready to be integrated. Adebayor hasn't played since July and everybody has now had their pre season fitness and games and has also played competitively, putting them at a totally different level of fitness.
I don't think anyone can argue he was pretty poor last season but I don't buy this whole idea of him being secure and then suddenly, conciously deciding to play like an ****. I think he is a confidence player and one that maybe needs to be managed in a personal fashion slightly differently to most other players. That is down to AVB to find out and decide if its worth the hassle but I would suggest that getting Adebayor's head right and making him competitive with Soldado/Defoe can only work in our favour whereas just sacking him off means we are light until at least January and definitely doesn't work in our favour.
Kaboul was a different scenario. He was back at the start of pre season, finishing off his personalised plan specific to his rehab and was seperate to the rest of the squad until he was ready to be integrated. Adebayor hasn't played since July and everybody has now had their pre season fitness and games and has also played competitively, putting them at a totally different level of fitness.
I don't think anyone can argue he was pretty poor last season but I don't buy this whole idea of him being secure and then suddenly, conciously deciding to play like an ****. I think he is a confidence player and one that maybe needs to be managed in a personal fashion slightly differently to most other players. That is down to AVB to find out and decide if its worth the hassle but I would suggest that getting Adebayor's head right and making him competitive with Soldado/Defoe can only work in our favour whereas just sacking him off means we are light until at least January and definitely doesn't work in our favour.
Jurgen the German
Tommy Harmer
Re: Adebayor
Ok, has any other Spurs player been forced to train with the development team to your knowledge during AVB's reign?
His lack of form AFTER he gets his contract comes down to motivation or lack of it.
"Up to when I find it appropriate, he will train with the development team" Doesn't exactly scream he's in my plans for the future. Plus he's said Adebayor was free to leave. Whether we rate him or not, it's obvious AVB doesn't rate him that highly.
It stands to reason that 3 fit and on song strikers is better than 1 or 2, but I don't see him being a factor, even if AVB does give him chances to prove himself again.
Ok, has any other Spurs player been forced to train with the development team to your knowledge during AVB's reign?
His lack of form AFTER he gets his contract comes down to motivation or lack of it.
"Up to when I find it appropriate, he will train with the development team" Doesn't exactly scream he's in my plans for the future. Plus he's said Adebayor was free to leave. Whether we rate him or not, it's obvious AVB doesn't rate him that highly.
It stands to reason that 3 fit and on song strikers is better than 1 or 2, but I don't see him being a factor, even if AVB does give him chances to prove himself again.
Re: Adebayor
I don't know of any other players like that to my knowledge but then again this is a scenario that hasn't cropped up before. He has missed alot of pre season which is why I think he is going to be with them doing fitness work and more drills than the first team are going to be doing which will be more match specific. Thats my only reasoning for thinking along those lines.
You can't say that and neither can I with any surety. We can speculate but I cannot believe that a player concsiously decides to stop bothering in all aspects because he has a contract. It has to be something deeper, something that we wouldn't see because we don't play with him, spend time with him or manage him. It's a bizarre scenario but one that someone has to try and get to the bottom of and of course Adebayor has a responsibility to make sense of it too. That's why I want him to have a chance to rectify last season's complete collapse in his form.
AVB doesn't always come across well with specific statements and lines - remember his comment about one of our players potentially being clever enough to take a 3rd booking in the group stage of the Europa last season? I don't think he is an easy man to interpret when he is making comments or passing statements.
I don't know of any other players like that to my knowledge but then again this is a scenario that hasn't cropped up before. He has missed alot of pre season which is why I think he is going to be with them doing fitness work and more drills than the first team are going to be doing which will be more match specific. Thats my only reasoning for thinking along those lines.
You can't say that and neither can I with any surety. We can speculate but I cannot believe that a player concsiously decides to stop bothering in all aspects because he has a contract. It has to be something deeper, something that we wouldn't see because we don't play with him, spend time with him or manage him. It's a bizarre scenario but one that someone has to try and get to the bottom of and of course Adebayor has a responsibility to make sense of it too. That's why I want him to have a chance to rectify last season's complete collapse in his form.
AVB doesn't always come across well with specific statements and lines - remember his comment about one of our players potentially being clever enough to take a 3rd booking in the group stage of the Europa last season? I don't think he is an easy man to interpret when he is making comments or passing statements.
Jurgen the German
Tommy Harmer
Re: Adebayor
I can't remember off the top of my head but he was being asked about it in post match presser and the press officer was trying to get him to shut up. The reporter asked him to repeat himself so that it was on camera and the press officer took over and said AVB means this and that sort of thing. Might have been after one of the Maribor games.
I can't remember off the top of my head but he was being asked about it in post match presser and the press officer was trying to get him to shut up. The reporter asked him to repeat himself so that it was on camera and the press officer took over and said AVB means this and that sort of thing. Might have been after one of the Maribor games.