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Davinson Sanchez

You may not get a trophy for it but to my mind qualifying for the CL by finising top four in the PL is frankly a much greater achievement than winning a domestic cup.
Are you an accountant by any chance? I don't suppose the word "glory" resonates with you. Does coming 4th and winning nothing make you proud? For me a cup win is special...or rather it would be if the club gave a flying fudge about it.
 
NaijaSpurs said:
Apologies my good man, it was @Baleforce who said if you play international football you are World Class.

You names both begin with 'B' so you both look the same to me :D
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Hey for what it’s worth …
IMO to be world class you have to be able to get in one side of an 11 vs 11 team
I know that’s debatable, but that the point
 
Bedfordspurs said:
Hey for what it’s worth …
IMO to be world class you have to be able to get in one side of an 11 vs 11 team
I know that’s debatable, but that the point
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One problem with that rationale is that most teams nowadays only play with one central striker. I am not sure all of Kane, Lewandowski, Haaland and Benzema would make either 11, even though all 4 are world class.

In the same vein there are more than 2 world class keepers which means at least one would not make the team. I am sure the same applies in other positions, particularly midfield.

But I agree, as to who is world class is definitely debatable.
 
Bedfordspurs said:
Hey for what it’s worth …
IMO to be world class you have to be able to get in one side of an 11 vs 11 team
I know that’s debatable, but that the point
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So 2 world-class players per position, roughly?

For me, there are at least 5-6 world class players per position that I can easily name off the top of my head, so I think roughly 10 players can be world-class in any given position. Pretty much agree with @NaijaSpurs, but it's an interesting debate as you say.
For strikers (in no particular order):
Kane (duh)
Haaland
Lewandowski
Mbappe
Benzema

Not even counting Messi and Ronaldo. Osihmen might make the list, and players like Lukaku are a bit inconsistent despite generally being pretty good (which IMO makes him not world class).
 
papaspur said:
So 2 world-class players per position, roughly?

For me, there are at least 5-6 world class players per position that I can easily name off the top of my head, so I think roughly 10 players can be world-class in any given position. Pretty much agree with @NaijaSpurs, but it's an interesting debate as you say.
For strikers (in no particular order):
Kane (duh)
Haaland
Lewandowski
Mbappe
Benzema

Not even counting Messi and Ronaldo. Osihmen might make the list, and players like Lukaku are a bit inconsistent despite generally being pretty good (which IMO makes him not world class).
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But that’s the debate and discussion
Its why I think my logic is right
Doesn’t mean we have to agree on who is in that team
That’s the fun part
 
Bedfordspurs said:
But that’s the debate and discussion
Its why I think my logic is right
Doesn’t mean we have to agree on who is in that team
That’s the fun part
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Right, I never implied that anyone here is right or wrong, hence why I said it's an interesting debate. Was just asking genuinely if it came down to exactly two players.
 
Bedfordspurs said:
But that’s the debate and discussion
Its why I think my logic is right
Doesn’t mean we have to agree on who is in that team
That’s the fun part
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It's being one of the best in the world at what you do. How many "one of" equates to, is debatable.

Top 10-20 for your position seems very reasonable to me.
 
papaspur said:
So 2 world-class players per position, roughly?

For me, there are at least 5-6 world class players per position that I can easily name lo⁰⁰⁰0off the top of my head, so I think roughly 10 players can be world-class in any given position. Pretty much agree with @NaijaSpurs, but it's an interesting debate as you say.
For strikers (in no particular or⁰ppder):
Kane (duh)
Haaland
Lewandowski
Mbappe
Benzema

Not even counting Messi and Ronaldo. Osihmen might make the list, and players like Lukaku are a bit inconsistent despite generally being pretty good (which IMO makes him not world class).
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I definitely agree with you re Osimhen, although I did not mention Mbappe because more often than not he does not play through the centre, but rather prefers the left of a front 3, just like Mane and Vincious Junior all of whom I would suggest are world class.
 
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