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Danny Rose

Not in any area is Davies far superior to Rose, let alone overall. Is Davies the better defender? Yes, but not by a country mile and Rose certainly adds more than Davies does going forward.

Like Rossi says they are both good players, who will be rotated as Poch sees fit. If Poch thought Davies was much the better player he would be playing most of the time, like the majority of our first team....

Yep - Rose on performances thus far and the amount of starts that he has, seems to be first choice at the moment although it is very close. Rose being first choice is 100% justified IMO even though most Spurs fans still refuse to see it.
 
Went through a Chalscum forum to see how their view changed as the match progressed.

They hated Rose throughout - so he must have been effective for us.
 
He did well yesterday, however I still think Davies is the better player and would be my num one.

Different players, and I think that's a good thing, to me there isn't a lot between them, however

- Rose has a bigger variance between his on/off form days
- Get the impression Davies is a little more consistent
- Rose obviously adds a bit more pace to team
- Both are committed (Rose's goal yesterday, he was going to hit that if it broke his leg .. well done to the lad)
 
Different players, and I think that's a good thing, to me there isn't a lot between them, however

- Rose has a bigger variance between his on/off form days
- Get the impression Davies is a little more consistent
- Rose obviously adds a bit more pace to team
- Both are committed (Rose's goal yesterday, he was going to hit that if it broke his leg .. well done to the lad)

Do not disagree with most of that, but if I had to chose it would be Davies who would get the place.
 
Do not disagree with most of that, but if I had to chose it would be Davies who would get the place.

And I could see why, if it was my choice, I'd probably use Rose as sub in PL, give him cup games

I would also like to see us test Rose in front of Davies as a tactical option.
 
Two good options at LB who offer something different from one another - i don't agree with any side of the argument saying one is clearly above the other, imo they are both on the same level and it will be interesting to see how their 'battle' for the starting position develops over the next couple of seasons.
 
Different players, and I think that's a good thing, to me there isn't a lot between them, however

- Rose has a bigger variance between his on/off form days
- Get the impression Davies is a little more consistent
- Rose obviously adds a bit more pace to team
- Both are committed (Rose's goal yesterday, he was going to hit that if it broke his leg .. well done to the lad)

Yep. Rose may have better games than Davies when on top form, but Davies is more consistent and not as bad as Rose when they both have bad games.
 
Different players, and I think that's a good thing, to me there isn't a lot between them, however

- Rose has a bigger variance between his on/off form days
- Get the impression Davies is a little more consistent
- Rose obviously adds a bit more pace to team
- Both are committed (Rose's goal yesterday, he was going to hit that if it broke his leg .. well done to the lad)

Agree with all of that.

Rose's very best form is a bit better than that of Davies. Problem is, Rose's worst form seems to be much, much worse.

Hopefully Poch can train some consistency and concentration into Rose, then we would have two very good players for that spot.
 
Agree with all of that.

Rose's very best form is a bit better than that of Davies. Problem is, Rose's worst form seems to be much, much worse.

Hopefully Poch can train some consistency and concentration into Rose, then we would have two very good players for that spot.

When did Rose show such poor form? I can't remember him having a bad patch this season.

In approximately 65% of league games and majority of cup games we are the favourites with us expected to provide the attacking impetus. In such scenarios we need Rose a lot more than we do Davies who whilst being a very solid player just doesn't provide anywhere near as good attacking threat...


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When did Rose show such poor form? I can't remember him having a bad patch this season.

In approximately 65% of league games and majority of cup games we are the favourites with us expected to provide the attacking impetus. In such scenarios we need Rose a lot more than we do Davies who whilst being a very solid player just doesn't provide anywhere near as good attacking threat...


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He shows at least one usually two very poor moments in each match still.

You're right that Davies needs to improve his attacking skillset, but Rose still needs to learn to concentrate for 90 mins.
 
I think rose offering more in attack is is such a myth, his crossing is awful, has he any assists this season? He ventures forward quite a. It which exposes us defensively a lot, and I still feel his positional play isn't good enough.
 
I think rose offering more in attack is is such a myth, his crossing is awful, has he any assists this season? He ventures forward quite a. It which exposes us defensively a lot, and I still feel his positional play isn't good enough.

Yep I think you'll find he has 3 assists this year and his crossing this season has been much improved. Defensively he has been strong. It's unfair to pick apart isolated games or incidents to declare that r shouldn't be playing. Danny Rose has been very different to the unfit player we saw at times last year and the raw kid we saw a few years before that. A few pages from Oct/Nov will show just how many fans had started to change opinions on him and his injury stalled that.
 
The big difference is one of them is a left back and one is a converted left back, potentially Rose offers more if he progresses as he is. Davies is a safe pair of hands and a quality left back adds an awful lot to a team.
 
I think rose offering more in attack is is such a myth, his crossing is awful, has he any assists this season? He ventures forward quite a. It which exposes us defensively a lot, and I still feel his positional play isn't good enough.



By the same token it's also something of a myth that Davies doesn't offer much going forward. It's true he is more cautious in getting forward but he supports our attacks more than he is given credit for and has a high-quality cross in him as well as a classy measured pass to put others in on goal.

Agree Rose seriously needs to improve his crossing but just by getting forward he makes a big difference to our attacks. Yes this can often leave us exposed but like Walker he is quick to get back and i just love the way he imposes himself physically on his opponent.

I like both LBs for their very different qualities and am just loving the competition that is currently being played out between them for No 1 status. As Rose himself mentioned in a recent interview such competition can only be good for the team a a whole.
 
I think rose offering more in attack is is such a myth, his crossing is awful, has he any assists this season? He ventures forward quite a. It which exposes us defensively a lot, and I still feel his positional play isn't good enough.

The system we are playing requires our fullbacks to get forward.
 
Full backs are generally players who haven't cut it as wingers and have the brains to play in defense. Very few have amazing delivery. Even Ashley Cole had a crap final ball. Leighton Baines is a rare example of one who has got it. Rose and Davies are a decent pair. We are blessed at left back I feel.
 
while i feel that rose isn't technically gifted i do think he uses his pace and body wisely. his strength really isn't attack but driving forwards with tenacity. he never gives up and there's always a threat of a breakaway that puts the opponents on their heels. something that naughton can't impose. him and davies make a good pair with complementary skills providing Poch options for different games. (same with yedlin and walker; naughton though good doesn't provide enough tactical difference for a coach).
 
Excellent again today and since the Leicester game he was been very very strong for us.

He very rarely gets much praise but today he was man of the match along side stambouli if it wasn't for erisken firing us home.

He has had a really good season so far and lately his form has been very impressive.

For once in a long time you could probably say left back is our strongest position
 
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