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Danny Rose
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Luka Modric
The problem is that he is having effect on the game. Surely the first requirement of a holding midfielder is to provide a screen for the defence? He is failing that one simple requirement. On a few occasions yesterday I watched as a member of Stoke's midfield ghosted past him and Capoue didn't seem to even notice and turn to defend against that until the ball had already been played to that player. This is then giving our centre halves an impossible job as they have a member of the opposition's midfield bearing down on them but also still with the opposition's attacker/attackers to have to pick up.
Contrast this to the other end of the pitch where we never seem to have this same situation, despite us always cutting inside why do the opposition's defence never have to come out to close down our attacking midfielders?.... Is it perhaps because their holding player is there in place to do this?
a spur from swansea
Naybet
i don't know about him,he's got pace,plenty of it,but wasn't he partly at fault last week against villa and the second goal yesteday...where he plays hopeful punt down shawcross neck giving kane no chance,the header came straight back where he was totally the wrong side of the stoke forward then,either he should have played it down the line or to kanes feet...
He's quite often in front of the ball when going forward,takes the space of our wide players and when he gets it either hits the cross to hard or falls over when pushing it past the opposition defenders.
Because he gives it all doesn't mean he contributes something to the side,we need something different now.
He's quite often in front of the ball when going forward,takes the space of our wide players and when he gets it either hits the cross to hard or falls over when pushing it past the opposition defenders.
Because he gives it all doesn't mean he contributes something to the side,we need something different now.
Not disagreeing with you at all, when it comes to going through the centre of the pitch - just seems he gets the blame for not providing cover in just about every position. If he is being deployed as a holding midfilder, I do question why Poch hasn't sorted this. Anyway, I suppose wrong thread.....
Can't agree with that at all, you're making him out to be just a 'try hard' type of player. He's been far better than that, he's made a few mistakes this season but playing in this side you'd have to be super human not to. He's one of the last positions we need to be scrutinising at the moment....
A DM normally should always be facing the play Capoue and/or Mason never are, I cant work it out it must be the way they are told to play, when they "press" the ball is quite simply played in behind them, we do look a total mess, or it could be the fact neither of the two players mentioned are suited to playing in the DM role, even Sandro who was the last decent DM we had was getting bypassed and having to chase back to cover when he played in this ****ing awful system, the biggest worry is our player preference, is Fazio better than Dawson ? Stambouli who I thought we bought to cover for Sandro cannot even get in the side, Paulinho, Ericksen, Lamela, Soldado, Davies, none of these have proved a great success or hit the ground running, the money spent is frightening for so little return, it could only happen to us.
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Jimmy McCormick
When a defender has his pace then how the **** does he let himself be done by the ball in behind like he was for the second goal yesterday.
He might be decent occasionally giving us width going forward. He might be seen to be showing passion.
But he is never a defender. His passing is awful. And he's a dirty nasty little tackler who likes a dive.
He might be decent occasionally giving us width going forward. He might be seen to be showing passion.
But he is never a defender. His passing is awful. And he's a dirty nasty little tackler who likes a dive.
What's wrong with a nasty little tackler? He's the only one who puts his foot in and long may it continue. You need several players like thatHis passing is no worse than the majority of our other players and covering the back post and in one on one's he has been excellent.
He was caught wrong side of the ball as it was headed back, so he had a split second to react whilst the ball was in the air. What was worrying how a centre half on the right side of the ball wasn't quick enough to cover.
You don't like him, get over it - he has proven his doubters wrong and is deservedly holding his place down in this side
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Jimmy McCormick
If he was a bigger player he'd have ended someones career by now.
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Jimmy McCormick
a spur from swansea
Naybet
.....i know whats wrong with keeping your head up,having a slight to touch onto right foot,playing it down the line,making the defender head it into touch or making him turn or perhaps playing it to kanes feet with either him getting fouled or bringing someone else in.......instead he hoofs it in the air giving kane no chance or as what happened giving the Shawcroft an ideal ball to head back. There is defending and defending..... most of the time he wants to attack before he wants to defend......our next game is at hull on tv,we'll see how many times he gets caught in no mans land now.
SteveAWOL
Chris Jones
Whilst Rose' created the problem with his hoof up the pitch which Kane no chance of winning ahead of Shawcross, if Kaboul had stayed in line with the rest of our back 4 there wouldn't have been a gaping hole in the middle of the pen area for Walters to stroll into and tap home their 2nd.
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Tim Sherwood
Danny Rose is a naturally attacking wide left sided midfield player who has been converted into a LB. Sometimes you can successfully convert players into another position -but when we have Ben Davies, and the I-haven't-forgotten-him-but-other-people-might-have BAE why aren't we playing a natural defender there, and playing Rose as wide midfielder. Especially when we could do with a good left sided wide player.
It's not about whether he can do a half decent job at LB, which he can. But his natural inclination to attack will always let him down defensively at some point, whether that is positioning himself on the wrong side of his man, or trying to keep the ball in play when he should be hoofing it into row z. And right now the advanced attacking full backs concept is not going too well anyway.
It's not about whether he can do a half decent job at LB, which he can. But his natural inclination to attack will always let him down defensively at some point, whether that is positioning himself on the wrong side of his man, or trying to keep the ball in play when he should be hoofing it into row z. And right now the advanced attacking full backs concept is not going too well anyway.
I dont think he was particularly good as a left midfielder previously to be honest, he has a bit of pace but not enough to cause real problems and doesn't possess any particular skill to beat a man so he looked pretty average.
He looks better coming from the LB position in the way Bale did when he was LB for us. Obviously not saying hes at Bale's level but the fact he comes from deep and a lot of the time is unmarked makes it more likely he will cause problems down the left side, rather than if he was a LM who was being marked by a full back for 90 minutes.....
He looks better coming from the LB position in the way Bale did when he was LB for us. Obviously not saying hes at Bale's level but the fact he comes from deep and a lot of the time is unmarked makes it more likely he will cause problems down the left side, rather than if he was a LM who was being marked by a full back for 90 minutes.....
Kingdawson
Banned
I agree.
Rorschach
Sonny Walters
Yep, I'm not too sure wtf Kaboul is thinking either.
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Gus Poyet
I'm wondering what Rose would look like as a left midfielder, with Ben Davies behind him?Got to be worth a try....
metalgear
Luka Modric
Can't cross can't shoot... If you have too I'd have Davies in front, at least he's got a better pass in him.