Baleforce
Chris Waddle
willing to respect or accept behaviour or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas.
again, that clearly isn't liberalism
(unless of course the target of the ire is actually a proven racist, sexist, homophobe etc)
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American politics
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again, that clearly isn't liberalism
(unless of course the target of the ire is actually a proven racist, sexist, homophobe etc)
wiziwig
Steed Malbranque
I take your point andI would describe myself as liberal, but to some liberals I'm anything but!
wiziwig
Steed Malbranque
These have been the retorts by the Liberals and Leftists for the past few decades to anything that differs from their view of the world . Denying it is part of the problem.
Baleforce
Chris Waddle
if those retorts are made baselessly they are not from a liberal, claiming to be a liberal and actually being one are two very different things, a bumper sticker doesn't make it so
but, Trump has made racist remarks in Presidential Debates, Pence is proud of his homophobia, they have been endorsed by the KKK, many americans DO tote guns
Baleforce
Chris Waddle
that's great then, because nobody is so we'll all get along
wiziwig
Steed Malbranque
There you go. Where have I said that there is no racism out there ?
Baleforce
Chris Waddle
you haven't, it wasn't aimed at anything you posted, it was a wider comment because people generally don't admit to being racist
parklane1
Teddy Sheringham
Disgraceful, 36 hours as a president elect and he has not changed the world sack him, better still lets get a idiot to post a campaign on face book that they should have another vote.
wiziwig
Steed Malbranque
What racist remarks has Trump made?
Since when have we ever had the total package from our leaders , we take them with their faults.
Hilary Clinton was a Goldwater girl, she fought against the civil rights movement. By her own admission her chief mentor in politics was Democratic senator Robert Byrd who was KKK. In fact the Democratic Party has its roots with the KKK .
parklane1
Teddy Sheringham
Especially those who do not get the results they want.
wiziwig
Steed Malbranque
Okay fair enough but don't you think sometimes you can over talk something to the point it turns people off ? .... I actually think Hillary Clinton lost the election, largely due to her endless accusations of misogyny. She came across as a nagging woman and hence lost the male vote
Baleforce
Chris Waddle
his comments on mexicans
true, not all faults are equal
people can change and her record suggests she has
Baleforce
Chris Waddle
it's not the campaign i would have run, i'd have gone with smart and experienced but that would probably have lost this election too
wiziwig
Steed Malbranque
I think the not so clever mexican rant by Trump has been deliberately taken out of context by the media. He was speaking with regards to the illegal immigration and criminals that were coming over the border.
Gilzeantoscore
Simon Davies
That Mexicans are a bunch of rapists. last time I checked, that constituted a racist remark. Next you'll attempt moral relativism, by arguing, well at least he didn't gas them, unlike a certain other central European gentleman.
Rorschach
Fanny Walden
He also had a thing in the early days where he would not rent his properties to black people. And here is a nice quote from him about the same time “I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is. I believe that”. He campaigned on an anti-immigration argument. The list goes on.
Trump is exactly what he looks like, a bit of racist among other things but the people who voted for him didn't really care about that or any of his other faults. If Trump fudged a pig live on national TV (Black Mirror
) he still would have got in. White Christian America is dying and they don't like it. Most of them are as poor as brick with no light visible at the end of the tunnel. Trump won the election with those votes because these people just needed something to change to get their old life back.
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