-
Dear Guest, Please note that adult content is not permitted on this forum. We have had our Google ads disabled at times due to some posts that were found from some time ago. Please do not post adult content and if you see any already on the forum, please report the post so that we can deal with it. Adult content is allowed in the glory hole - you will have to request permission to access it. Thanks, scara
Yves Bissouma
- Thread starter Glenda's Legs
- Start date
On his day, he's near unplayable (seen it last season in the games before his suspension, seen it for Brighton), consistency matters.
Think having a fit Bentancur competing and the fact that he clearly sees himself as "big brother" to Sarr can make a difference, but he's in his prime, this is a now or never for him (pre this season, saw him as one of the next obvious upgrade areas)
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
For me another "never" game after the previous "now" game.
Is it inconsistency or is he too limited with his vision and passing to be consistent across different game states and oppositions?
His press resistance comes mostly from shielding the ball, twisting away from players and dribbling. When that isn't working (for whatever reason) he's not particularly press resistant at all.
Was surprised to see him stay on the pitch as long as he did. But perhaps he was better than I thought when watching the game.
Mosquito_Coasting
Jonathan Woodgate
Basically Ange is asking him to play as Rodri (best in the world) does with worse players around him. It is ridiculous now with Maddison and Kulu in front of him. It's the system which is making him look worse than he probably is. Same goes for Bentancur when he's put there too.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
It works very well some of the time. But I'd rather Sarr in for Maddison when games are in the balance, then bring Maddison on if we are on top by not breaking through.
Lemonade Money
Les Medley
Every game is in the balance when you start. I'd rather we start like this all the time, and then the manager can gauge whether we can take the handbrake off.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
America's best forward plays for Falkirk or someone, so its not a high bar
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
I get how that would make things difficult for him defensively. But defensively through the middle we've been mostly fine imo.
With the ball playing with two players with real quality on the ball like Maddison and Kulusevski should be really useful.
To me in a way the system/selection makes him look worse. If he had another deep player next to him with a really good passing game to take more of that responsibility he probably would look better.
As it is his weaknesses in his passing game are really getting exposed, particularly in some game states. I'm not in the habit of watching games back, and definitely won't watch the Palace game back, but from memory there were a lot of situations where he had options to pass had he seen them and released the ball earlier.
Personally I would like Maddison to drop even deeper and deep more of the time when we're struggling to get out through a press. Try to take more of that responsibility off Bissouma in those circumstances.
Bishop
John Lacy
I've said for a while that we need a deep switch passer. Someone who can hit the corners or cross field with low and accurate passees, especially with wide players like Johnson, Son and Werner who do best when running on to balls in space and struggle when faced up against defenders.
I remember going to the Quarabag match and honestly Johnson was wide open for a pass into running space for at least 70% of the match but we never once played that ball. We have a lot of short and neat passers but other than Porro noone who can accurately hit a player over a longer distance. I really think it would step us up a level to add that quality to the midfield, and the additional variety would make us so much more dynamic.
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
We have poor passers in the team. The inability or assume unwillingness to hit cross field passes is scary
Maddison is a massive issue on that front normally… 7 touches to make a simple pass
In thsi set up I don’t expect that cross field passes to come form the DM. Shame because it would be bloody effective with the pace we have
Quick long passes are bloody effective
Muttley
Ben Thatcher
Must admit, I find it hard to hang Bissouma out to dry for his Palace performance. I could easily do that with Madds and Kulu who were ahead of play so many times and completely stitched their team mate up. I could hang the manager out to dry as well for being naive again.
The one thing I could probably kick Bissouma's arse over is not having the leadership to lambast his 2 team mates and stop leaving him high and dry. He is 28 and has a fair few t-shirts at this point in his career. I could also lambast our other 2 so called leaders Romero and Madds for not making on-field tweaks as well and getting control in the middle of the park.
I'm definitely left wondering how Ange's system works against a 3-5-2 system. It seems setup to disrupt other 4 at the back systems and the key elements in it don't have the same impact. It is something for him to think about.
The one thing I could probably kick Bissouma's arse over is not having the leadership to lambast his 2 team mates and stop leaving him high and dry. He is 28 and has a fair few t-shirts at this point in his career. I could also lambast our other 2 so called leaders Romero and Madds for not making on-field tweaks as well and getting control in the middle of the park.
I'm definitely left wondering how Ange's system works against a 3-5-2 system. It seems setup to disrupt other 4 at the back systems and the key elements in it don't have the same impact. It is something for him to think about.
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
It struggles against 3-5-2 if they press
Palace are very food at that
You need to pass better and retain the ball more
But we will get killed against any decent side playing that way if we don’t have a Better pass success rate
We hit a low of 79% at the weekend at some point
Muttley
Ben Thatcher
Gonna take this to the Ange thread
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
I agree. But I also think a more metronomic, tempo setting, "press resistant" type passer who is better at short and mid range passing deep in midfield would be super useful to us.
To take it to the extremes of world class players you're essentially describing an Alonso type player. Would no doubt be super useful. But even accepting someone not quite at that level they're rare and very rarely combined with the necessary defensive ability for our needs.
The Rodri/Busquets type players, more focused on short and mid range passing, but super effective and purposeful with their passing, being press resistant. That would make a big difference too if we couldn't find that "switch passer" imo. Even if not quite at that very highest level of individual quality.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
I definitely wouldn't want to hang him out to dry. He is the player he is. But his shortcomings with vision and passing are a concern imo.
Bishop
John Lacy
I do agree, either approach would be a big improvement I just think with the way Ange sets us out and the wide players we do have (Johnson In particular) that having someone able to play those longer distance accurate passes would really free them up and make the best use of their best attributes (pace, finishing) and negate their weaker areas (dribbling, control in tight areas).
Earlier in the season we did see Bissouma attempt some longer passes and if I recall correctly they were quite effective at the time but that seems to have dried up and we are back to purely shorter passes, which I'm not against injustice don't think it really suits our final 3rd attackers.
