World Cup Group B - Australia, Chile, Netherlands, Spain

[Neymar]

Pique, Ramos, Casillas. They're incredibly overrated because they play for good teams and rarely have to do much defending.

i do think he(ramos) is incredibly good. but, you do wonder how he would do for a weaker side. he seems to get caught out quite frequently and doesnt seem to track runners that well. but like you said, this isnt obvious because his team isnt in defending for large parts of games. at the end of the day though, he is very good on the ball (for a defender), is quick, and is very good 1v1, and therefore can play in a high line. which is the requiement for top teams.

 

[Baleforce]

Torres!

 

[Seedy Ron]

Torres. :lol:

 

[Seedy Ron]

I think Robbie can consider himself unlucky he didn't get the nod, never mind Negredo.

 

[Superted]

You can have him if you pay his air fair

Would wouldn't have got in ahead of Max Vieri

 

[Baleforce]

robben has been electric but this is all about how good holland have been as a unit

 

[Neymar]

I think that Seaman was better than you are giving him credit for

my bad. having re-read my posts, it does probably seem that i am being overly critical of him and shay given.
for the era that they were playing in, they were exceptional. especially david seaman. but i just dont think they would be considered as one of the top goalkeepers if they were around today. both of them arent good enough on the ball or athletic enough.

 

[scaramanga]

I think Robbie can consider himself unlucky he didn't get the nod, never mind Negredo.

Keane?

Boyhood country apparently....

 

[billyiddo]

positional heat map from tonight's game :

Spoiler

 

[Superted]

Hopefully this is another nail in the tika tapa coffin.

 

[markysimmo]

Who is the main striker for Chile ????

 

[Yossarian]

Spain can only group finish runners up, and if they do, they will play Brazil in the round of 16.

 

[Neymar]

Spain can only group finish runners up, and if they do, they will play Brazil in the round of 16.

thats going to be some game!

 

[Yossarian]

thats going to be some game!

They have to beat Chile and Australia first.

 

[Baleforce]

they can still win the group

not that I think they will

 

[Seedy Ron]

Holland could easily go to ****, even after this result.

 

[Jordinho]

Chile: Bravo, Mena, Isla, Medel, Jara, Vidal, Valdivia, Aranguiz, Diaz, Sanchez, Vargas

Australia: Ryan, Franjic, Davidson, Wilkinson, Spiranovic, Milligan, Oar, Jedinak, Bresciano, Cahill, Leckie

 

[Baleforce]

surprised they are risking Vidal

 

[Yossarian]

Holland could easily go to ****, even after this result.

Unlikely. Having wiped the floor with the defending champions, van Gaal will have them believing they can win it.

 

[Superted]

Chile: Bravo, Mena, Isla, Medel, Jara, Vidal, Valdivia, Aranguiz, Diaz, Sanchez, Vargas

Australia: Ryan, Franjic, Davidson, Wilkinson, Spiranovic, Milligan, Oar, Jedinak, Bresciano, Cahill, Leckie

Leckie! Get in. Used to play for my A League club. He's a bit like Bale, not as good but with better hair.