SteveAWOL
Chris Jones
I think that he’s referring only to away games that we’ve won after going behind.
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I think that he’s referring only to away games that we’ve won after going behind.
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
It’s rare for a team to come from behind and win
More so away
Can’t realky remember many times when we have done it over the years
SteveAWOL
Chris Jones
FWIW about 17% of sides who fall behind will go on to take all 3 points nowadays, although can’t find a breakdown on how many of those were by teams playing away from home.
Comeback Wins Are More Common Than Ever in the Premier League | Opta Analyst
There were three comeback victories on the last Premier League matchday, continuing a theme we have been seeing more of in recent seasons.
Our record of winning after conceding first in PL since Postecoglou took charge is good at WHL.
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suffolkspur
Ben Thatcher
It's been so long since I've logged on but I need to offload!
Really feel conflicted at the moment. On the one hand it's been a long time since I've been as excited about the potential in the team. I really do think we have a bright future. I like Ange and his philosophy and I'm hopeful he can see it through to success. But the performances today and the 2nd half against Brighton just don't make any sense. We were dominant in that first half and I get that in the premier league a decent team are likely to provide a reaction like Brighton did. But we collapsed. Today was just terrible from the off and there was no reaction from the players or Ange.
The end of last season was poor but I was hopeful. This season I see some reasons for optimism but I'm growing more pessimistic. It's maddening.
Really feel conflicted at the moment. On the one hand it's been a long time since I've been as excited about the potential in the team. I really do think we have a bright future. I like Ange and his philosophy and I'm hopeful he can see it through to success. But the performances today and the 2nd half against Brighton just don't make any sense. We were dominant in that first half and I get that in the premier league a decent team are likely to provide a reaction like Brighton did. But we collapsed. Today was just terrible from the off and there was no reaction from the players or Ange.
The end of last season was poor but I was hopeful. This season I see some reasons for optimism but I'm growing more pessimistic. It's maddening.
Mosquito_Coasting
Jonathan Woodgate
We're a young team so patchy results are maybe expected. We will see if Chelsea sustain it or what has happened to us since the start of last season happens to them. Our home form is pretty decent so we're in little danger of relegation. Give Ange the season and cross our fingers for luck in the cups. I do think our squad has a lot of talent and I'm not sure Ange is getting as much out of it as he (or someone else) might.
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
Yeah Levy had an absolute shocker today
We’ve had serial winners, up and coming young managers, older managers, the results are always the same.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
Agreed. I get the frustration (I think), I get frustrated myself too. But we're definitely still a work in progress, there will be ups and downs.
But Ange needs to show improvement over time. I think there has been, but this game and the Brighton second half is not a good look for any manager. They have to make sure that doesn't happen too often.
Baleforce
Arthur Rowe
That we approach every game with a “don’t lose at all costs” attitude.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
Can understand the conflicted feelings and maddening feelings. We're seemingly fluctuating between playing really well and not playing well at all. Between games, but also within games. Feels like we're so close to clicking into gear and putting a good run together one game, then the rug getting pulled out under us the next.
I'm still mostly optimistic, though obviously there's a chance of failure.
I see the Palace game and Brighton second half as quite different, though with similarly frustrating outcomes and performances.
I think this still relatively young squad playing an ambitious form of football are still learning how to deal with and handle different kinds of situations (game states, opposition style and quality etc). Different games and different situations bring different challenges and they kind of have to learn how to deal with all of them in a positive manner. Along with some shortcomings in the squad that will take time to fix.
Yiddo
Jack Jull
They don’t have the time to do anything and if they did they bottle it. There was no excuse for Poch not to win something, he had arguably the most balanced team in the premier league, we finished on 70 points the season we were “challenging” Leicester which is clearly no where near good enough.
Levy was forced to sack the managers who didn’t get enough time as the fan base were pushing for them to be sacked, the atmosphere was toxic and he was left with no choice. Maybe if the fan base was patient then Levy wouldn’t have had to sack them.
glorygloryeze
Tom Huddlestone
Erm, so Levy sacked Mourinho just before the league cup final because of the fans??
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Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
Not an accurate representation of events in the slightest. Seems like a tactic to deflect away from Levy to turn around and say it was the fans who hounded those managers out. The only manager we have actively tried to get rid of was Graham. Certainly none since then.
Bishop
John Lacy
Aye, but those were teams that were usually prepared to compromise and adjust to playing a way best suited to beating City, Ange is unwilling to adjust so I dunno. We pretty much do the same thing City do but with inferior players and inferior coaching.
Well, United are crap. We were very good but they are also dog brick. We have an issue beating teams of comparable quality to ourselves, when you look at our results Vs the top 10 of the league it's pretty horrific.
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You don't remember the home game last season when we played them at home then? Ange showed different tactics that really gave City problems (albeit we lost), lets hope he does something similar this time and I have read apparently Pep is not going to field his strongest team.....
Bishop
John Lacy
I do but he was kind of forced into it due to injuries. I don't even necessarily think he must change things, just maybe be a little bit more cognizant of the oppositions strengths and weaknesses. I don't think going head to head versus City is our wisest course of action.
parklane1
Tony Galvin
I'm all for discussing Anges mistakes etc but finding the little clamour of sack Ange comments after every defeat way OTT. There is no magic bullet out there and we aren't backed by an oil state so no matter who the manager is there is going to be periods of pain and it's going to take time.
Sacking him would just mean we have to reset, wait another two years for someone philosophy to be properly embedded, whilst getting in his players only to then discover we probably still aren't good enough to challenge for titles and start the merry go round again. Or alternatively we could get in a Conte type again, that would be more fun
Could not agree more, we have tried sacking managers at the drop of a hat and where has it got us. If we did so and got yet ANOTHER manager in and the results take a while to show promise the usual crys of SACK Him will once again start.
Finney Is Back
Luka Modric
Sorry but that just isn't the case.
It wasn't true for Jol, or Redknapp or Pochettino or Sherwood. When Nuno went the calls were Levy/ENIC out and not Nuno out.
Even at the point that Mourinho went (should've been significantly earlier for him) there wasn't any unrest from the fans as we were looking forward to playing in a cup final, something that Mourinho had a habit of winning.
AVB was the only one where it was getting rather toxic from the fans (shows we have good judgement!)
I suspect the chairman will also give Ange the shove before there is much in the way of toxicity. We'll then lurch to a new manager with a completely different way of playing and rinse and repeat sacking them in 12 to 18 months' time.
We have to start again because that bald headed gnome at the top, keeps changing the clubs philosophy, because the tw*t hasn't got a clue about the footballing side.
He wanted Mourinho, because he knew best. So he brought in a defensive manager with a team full of attacking players and expected it to work. This is single mistake has put us where we are today. Then doubled downed with Conti.
No team has to start again if they stick to the same philosophy. We don't, we ebb and flow with whims of the bold gnome and expecting to do everything on the cheap.
He spends a lot of money, but it is usually on lots of cheap prospects in the hopes that one works and we get another Bale, that we can sell for £££.
A big part of the rot at out club is the lack of consistent philosophy and the chopping and changing.
