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Welcome Ange: To Dare is to Didgeridoo

Bishop said:
Or the players aren't capable of making those progressive passes. It's one thing to see them, it's another to actually have the confidence and the ability to actually play them. Even earlier in the season we weren't really breaking lines consistently with our passing but the pace of the passing was much higher. I do think that's dropped off as the confidence has waned but I think again it's an ability issue rather than a coaching one.
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It’s why we looked really good with bentacur and lo celso in midfield vs villa before they maimed Bentacur. 2 players who can pass and move and play “bounce” passes to hurt the opposition
 
spurs' magna carter said:
Can't see another win.

Gonna be beyond unpopular for saying it and don't like myself for even thinking it but maybe Son goes?

I'm left stabbing in the dark at our issues, another complete free fall of a season, yet it should not feel like this, doing better than I expected tbh. Sadly, there is way more rebuilding needed than was first thought.

But one thing I am sure, I am in on the project with big Ange.
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Son must go if Ange is to stay.
 
Something has shifted in the dressing room. This same group had the steal and determination earlier on. Now clueless. How can so many of them go off the boil?? Bar like Rom and Vdv???
 
Mrs Vert said:
Something has shifted in the dressing room. This same group had the steal and determination earlier on. Now clueless. How can so many of them go off the boil?? Bar like Rom and Vdv???
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It's not that at all its about us being found out, its the best league in the world with coaches that adapt to systems of the opposition.
 
Yiddo said:
It's not that at all its about us being found out, its the best league in the world with coaches that adapt to systems of the opposition.
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Sure. But Ange had also said there are staff and players not on board.
Us being found out makes us not being able make basic passes or shots on goal?? And why have we still not found an answer to us being "found out". I think it's complex and many layers perhaps....

Being found out shouldn't mean lack of effort

Since Dec or something. We are 16th in table apparently

If we as fans know we are gonna concede. The players sure as brick know what's coming as they are partaking in it
 
Bishop said:
I honestly can only think the people who think we should potentially sack Ange think this squad is faaaar better than it really is because if 5th isn't good enough with this squad what exactly are they expecting this group of players to achieve?

I think they are bonkers, we have a decent team, but that's it it's decent. It has some really obvious flaws and gaps and so I'm just not understanding the rage and fury. Before the season started we would have bitten hands off for 5th. I wanted top 6 so 5th is disappointing considering some of the early form, but that form was never going to be sustainable.
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Ange needs more of the players that suit his style of play. Only then can we judge him properly.

And while this current slump is awful, we have to see the bigger picture. Get through this awful dross, hope we beat burnley and Sheffield and lose to city.
billyiddo said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1787199672265711624
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Mrs Vert said:
6 players not even in the squad: Tanganga Rodon Sessegnion Spence Reguilon Ndombele

7 in the squad Davies Emerson Skipp Højbjerg Gil Forester Solomon

13 in total. And I'm sure people could add others to that list....it's gonna take a good few windows
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Agreed.

Yet some people would have you believe Son is the problem.
 
billyiddo said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1787199672265711624
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It's fair to an extent, but also remember the context that stat leaves out. In the same time frame:

* Arteta won the FA Cup despite coming in mid-season.
* Klopp took Liverpool to both the Carling Cup and Europa League finals while coming in mid-season.

Postecoglou dropped out of both trophies at basically the first hurdle, and is only two points ahead of where Klopp was at this point. Despite having had free midweeks for basically the entire season to drill his system into the players, we look worse every passing game.

Postecoglou has much, much more to prove than either Arteta or Klopp did, imo.
 
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