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Daisuk said:
I was calling for VAR for years, I really thought it would be great, but have had to eat my words with a lot of humble pie. It's been an absolute brick show. Sure, some things swing your way, but when all the margins are pretty much fingernails and a toe, then fudge it, what's the point? I hate it with a passion. I get mad when we get decisions against us, and embarrassed whenever we get one in our favor (at least if the margin is minuscule).
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It's taken the meaning out of games. Winning now often feels hollow in a way it never used to.
 
Gutter Boy said:
It's taken the meaning out of games. Winning now often feels hollow in a way it never used to.
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Really? I never have that feeling when we win. Why would a win feel hollow? We've had bad decisions before VAR and with VAR, we've had lucky wins before VAR and with VAR, we've had times VAR has gone against us, and times it has found in our favour. I still celebrate goals, unless it looked at the time as if there might have been a foul or an offside and then it's not really any different to pre-VAR when you'd have to wait whilst the ref would consult with his linesman, albeit it can take longer now to get a decision, sometimes ridiculously so.
There are definitely elements of VAR that need to be improved upon, both the technology and the way it is implemented (time taken; who should have final say - onfield ref or VAR; what should even be subject to VAR) but it's here, it's not going away, and I'm not going to let it spoil my overall enjoyment of watching my team.
I agree with something said earlier, that there is a risk that the rules are changed just to fit VAR, rather it being VAR that adapts. That is more concerning imo.
 
Glenda's Legs said:
Really? I never have that feeling when we win. Why would a win feel hollow? We've had bad decisions before VAR and with VAR, we've had lucky wins before VAR and with VAR, we've had times VAR has gone against us, and times it has found in our favour. I still celebrate goals, unless it looked at the time as if there might have been a foul or an offside and then it's not really any different to pre-VAR when you'd have to wait whilst the ref would consult with his linesman, albeit it can take longer now to get a decision, sometimes ridiculously so.
There are definitely elements of VAR that need to be improved upon, both the technology and the way it is implemented (time taken; who should have final say - onfield ref or VAR; what should even be subject to VAR) but it's here, it's not going away, and I'm not going to let it spoil my overall enjoyment of watching my team.
I agree with something said earlier, that there is a risk that the rules are changed just to fit VAR, rather it being VAR that adapts. That is more concerning imo.
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Rules are altered every season, sometimes mid season.
I'd rather we tweaked the offside rule to suit var so we had decisions that were clear, didn't take 5 mins and were not open to manipulation.
 
Gutter Boy said:
It's taken the meaning out of games. Winning now often feels hollow in a way it never used to.
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Nonsense.
I was losing my love for the game when decision after decision was wrong. Vital decisions which decide games were just guesses.

I have huge sympathy for refs, the game is too fast nowadays to decide with the human eye, so they were making lots of wrong decisions.

People like you claim 95-98% of decisions were right (and you laughably said 99.5% of linesman calls were right) but that is disingenuous.
Of course they get the EASY calls right, i.e. is it a goal kick, is it a throw in, is it a freekick but we're not talking about all those calls. We're talking about the 5 times per match which decide a game. Those crucial calls have to be more accurate and a ref cannot see them in real time.
 
It looked about 2 yards offside, but once it got to the striker it was basically gbh. In hindsight it wasn’t offside so the assault charge should have stood. What is amazing is VAR looked at it, considered it onside, watched the foul and then……let it go.
 
Can't find any mention of it, or a gif/video of the incident, but it sure sounds like proper VAR procedure - consistently inconsistent, illogical, unexplained and ultimately swept under the carpet.
 
I went to a game without VAR yesterday.

Ref had a bit of shocker and had to be escorted off the pitch by security at the end. He only got a few things wrong imo, but by the end of it every decision against the home team was met with abuse.

There were a few “if we had VAR” comments.

People are never happy I guess.
 
Baleforce said:
I went to a game without VAR yesterday.

Ref had a bit of shocker and had to be escorted off the pitch by security at the end. He only got a few things wrong imo, but by the end of it every decision against the home team was met with abuse.

There were a few “if we had VAR” comments.

People are never happy I guess.
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Am I alone in thinking there is far more incidents called into question since this system was bought in?
 
Deki got elbowed in the 1st half, was this looked at ?
Possible foul on Bentacur for their 3rd goal, was this looked at ?
Nobody actually knows in the stadium really, so different to the TMO in Rugby
 
Pgmol will be as glad to see the break as anyone, a lot of decisions being questioned.
Expect an "update" before the season restarts.
 
glasgowspur said:
Pgmol will be as glad to see the break as anyone, a lot of decisions being questioned.
Expect an "update" before the season restarts.
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