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Transfer thread

TBF we got Kudus early for quite big money and would've likely had MGW in early too, for an equally big fee, if it wasn't for whatever happened with that release clause.

We do have a long history of late transfers, though, and probably historically more so than many other clubs (although that's just speculation as I don't really know a lot about other clubs transfer dealings).

Then again, lots of other clubs have completed big signigns on deadline day too, according to a bit of quick Googling:
- Rooney to Manure
- Suarez to Liverpool
- Makelele to Chelski
- Ashley Cole to Chelski
- Tevez to West Ham
- Özil to Arsenal
- Ronaldo to Manure
- Robinho to City
- Martial to Manure
- Cole Palmer to Chelski
- Partey to Arsenal
- Torres to Chelski
- Nunes to City
- Aubameyang to Arsenal
- Antony to MAnure
- Enzo Fernandez to Chelski

You get my drift...then of course there's van der Vaart, Keane, Lloris, Alli, Moura, Johnson - and quite possibly Eze. :sweatsmile:
Not denying that getting players in late can be a problem.

On a larger scale of issues we've had and can have with recruitment it's imo a rather minor thing that gets overblown. Even a slight increase in getting the right players in would to me be preferable to a large increase in getting players in earlier.

I think it gets focused on as much because it's frustrating for us as fans when things take time.
 
Not denying that getting players in late can be a problem.

On a larger scale of issues we've had and can have with recruitment it's imo a rather minor thing that gets overblown. Even a slight increase in getting the right players in would to me be preferable to a large increase in getting players in earlier.

I think it gets focused on as much because it's frustrating for us as fans when things take time.
Definitely, and even more frustrating in an age of constant rumours and player links.

Getting the right player in as early as possible is always preferable, but it's not always doable for many reasons that other posters have mentioned. At least we got our manager sorted early, which was always going to be our most important transfer this summer, IMO.
 
Definitely, and even more frustrating in an age of constant rumours and player links.

Getting the right player in as early as possible is always preferable, but it's not always doable for many reasons that other posters have mentioned. At least we got our manager sorted early, which was always going to be our most important transfer this summer, IMO.
We rarely ever get the right players in early, we rarely even get the right players in period.
 
Probably not as the deal for Eze is contingent on them getting their replacement lined up. So we are probably actually gonna scramble around looking for someone, anyone.
The Leicester guy wasn't the only option they was looking at (although it seems the one they've ultimately gone for).

Perhaps we could get El Khannouss and then Palace refuse to sell Ese to the Goons :D....
 
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So our first choice AM/No10 was MGW and our second choice was Eze.

Here's a question. What have we learnt from our past about buying 3rd or 4th choices? When has it ever gone well?

Might be worth switching attention to another position. Going all in for a monster player like Hincapie springs to mind.
 
So our first choice AM/No10 was MGW and our second choice was Eze.

Here's a question. What have we learnt from our past about buying 3rd or 4th choices? When has it ever gone well?

Might be worth switching attention to another position. Going all in for a monster player like Hincapie springs to mind.
What's a 4th or 5th choice CB going to do to help at ACM?
 
What's a 4th or 5th choice CB going to do to help at ACM?

Hincapie 4th or 5th choice? Really? Wouldn't his stock in world football be as high as our current first choice pairing? When did Pep ever worry about his current centre halves feelings when buying the next one? What's the injury record of our current first choice pairing over the last couple of seasons? How many games do we play in a season?

There are so many reasons to buy this level of player. Doesn't have to be centre half either. Could be another position where a high calibre player is actually available in the current market.

If Hincapie did join, I'd ask the question back to you about what would be the output of Udogie and Spence? Whether him or VDV played LB, LCB etc in a flat back four or back three, our left attackers would have license to really attack that side with this quality behind them. That could be someone like Spence further forward who is so good on the ball.

I tend not to worry about these dilemmas. Teams that win the league just buy great players and let the rest work itself out.
 
Hincapie 4th or 5th choice? Really? Wouldn't his stock in world football be as high as our current first choice pairing? When did Pep ever worry about his current centre halves feelings when buying the next one? What's the injury record of our current first choice pairing over the last couple of seasons? How many games do we play in a season?

There are so many reasons to buy this level of player. Doesn't have to be centre half either. Could be another position where a high calibre player is actually available in the current market.

If Hincapie did join, I'd ask the question back to you about what would be the output of Udogie and Spence? Whether him or VDV played LB, LCB etc in a flat back four or back three, our left attackers would have license to really attack that side with this quality behind them. That could be someone like Spence further forward who is so good on the ball.

I tend not to worry about these dilemmas. Teams that win the league just buy great players and let the rest work itself out.
Our CB roster is probably the best now that it has ever been in our history. Even when we were competing to the EPL and CL we had Sanchez and Foyth as our alternatives.

CBs tend not to need to be rotated or get injured that much (under Ange everyone was injury prone, so that is out of data samples). You dont need as much depth as other positions where you make tactical or freshening up subs.

Basically we'd be much better blowing all our money on two AMs. Then scout through the autumn for a good young specialist LB to be able to rotate like-for-like with Udogie
 
If eze to arsenal happens, Levy out is going to get out of control.

That said ...what does Venkat do? ( With all his ex arsenal history)
 
I'd go for Marco asensio.
He wants a move, PSG want him out, he's played in the PL, villa have him on loan but I'm sure we can offer better terms.
 
Our CB roster is probably the best now that it has ever been in our history. Even when we were competing to the EPL and CL we had Sanchez and Foyth as our alternatives.

CBs tend not to need to be rotated or get injured that much (under Ange everyone was injury prone, so that is out of data samples). You dont need as much depth as other positions where you make tactical or freshening up subs.

Basically we'd be much better blowing all our money on two AMs. Then scout through the autumn for a good young specialist LB to be able to rotate like-for-like with Udogie

I think you're missing my point. There may be none available this window and the main 2 AM's we wanted haven't materialised. When you're a really top team there is such a small pool of these players and sometimes you have to wait. Just going down the stack and buying lesser players isn't the answer. You're better off buying 16-18 year olds and filling the long term pipe.

Out of interest, who are genuine alternatives to MGW and Eze for our system? For me, the most natural MGW alternative in the league is Morgan Rogers. Perhaps the only player left in the pool that ticks all the player boxes. Won't happen though as he's contracted until 2030. It would required £80m in today's market. So he doesn't tick the commercial boxes unless wee start moving into that next transfer fee bracket.

The rest of the names I read are potential and obviously some don't operate in England. That in itself is a risk.
 
Are we going to bench Sarr? If no, then isn’t our priority a left winger?

Which would mean benching Johnson, and less opportunity for Odobert and Tel. But personally I’d prefer we signed someone for the left. Kulu will hopefully come back mid or late this season.
 
Are we going to bench Sarr? If no, then isn’t our priority a left winger?

Which would mean benching Johnson, and less opportunity for Odobert and Tel. But personally I’d prefer we signed someone for the left. Kulu will hopefully come back mid or late this season.

I guess we should be able to bench anyone in a 60 game season where 5 subs is the norm. Plenty of space for everyone.
 
I guess we should be able to bench anyone in a 60 game season where 5 subs is the norm. Plenty of space for everyone.

We need a squad, but Sarr would be demoted right. He would be a sub and rotation option with a different first choice player. And that would be a shame. As you said in another post a Palhinha-like signing might be ideal. A Van De Vart. That way Sarr would have back up.

I'm more curious about the left side. Johnson's knack of scoring is positive, but can he add more to his game? Odobert looks on the front foot in pre-season and certainally has a role as a sub. But can he do more too and stake a claim for a starting place?

Had we signed Eze he would have slotted into that left bearth. So is a LW is our priority as Sarr, then Kulu, and then Maddison, should have something to say about the No. 10 role.
 
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