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Transfer thread

P.D. said:
There's Wissa as well but he's 28 and not really worth it for us.

It would be a massive risk but I think Sancho could get into the 10-15 goal bracket, I reckon UTD would sell for £10-15m as well given the Chelsea deal was £25m that they rejected. Risk is massive wages and an unmotivated player but I think with the right manager he still has lots to offer.
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I like him on the left. But I feel we need a player on the right. He’s nowhere near as effective there - despite good numbers there for Dortmund, he looked like a fish out of water there for Utd.
 
Anyone know about this guy, seems Arsenal are linked. Good stats and Dutch player of the year.

"Feyenoord’s Igor Paixão to their shopping list of potential attacking targets. Getting Rogers would demand a significant fee – likely north of £50m – with the former Middlesbrough man pulling up trees for Unai Emery’s this season, scoring 14 goals and 15 assists in 54 games. Paixão would be the cheaper option for the north London outfit. The 24-year-old had an outstanding season in the Netherlands, scoring 16 and adding 14 assists in 34 league matches to be named Dutch footballer of the year."
 
Bishop said:
To be clear, I don't care about stepovers I care about contribution to general play. Goals are nice but all the things he doesn't do a part of the reason we finished where we finished (obviously not him alone). We have the same problem on the left hand side, wide players who don't contribute in general play positively.
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Out of interest, are you a season ticket holder that goes to games regularly? I'm unfortunately not but have always had the impression that Brennan's off camera work rate is better than I might see on TV.

The point remains though that our current advantage is the collective of forwards we have. We at least have options and through substitutions can keep a freshness in our front 3 for the entire 90 mins. We also have a manager who seems to be able to get the goals coming from multiple sources in the team. The next step seems to be to find that stardust in some even better individual players and strengthen the collective even more.
 
Muttley said:
Out of interest, are you a season ticket holder that goes to games regularly? I'm unfortunately not but have always had the impression that Brennan's off camera work rate is better than I might see on TV.

The point remains though that our current advantage is the collective of forwards we have. We at least have options and through substitutions can keep a freshness in our front 3 for the entire 90 mins. We also have a manager who seems to be able to get the goals coming from multiple sources in the team. The next step seems to be to find that stardust in some even better individual players and strengthen the collective even more.
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I'm not a season ticket holder but I do go to the occasional game and I do think in person we don't utilise his strengths enough. I've commented previously that's he often moves himself into wide open space but our lack of switch passer or a unwillingness to use that tactic means we rarely if ever try to either isolate him 1on1 vs a defender or even better (for him) play balls into space for him to latch on to.

I always give Ange credit for getting this team scoring because frankly the quality isn't there up front but there's no question he has us scoring goals from across the team and I do put that down to his attacking layout and system. It does have some fairly obvious and glaring flaws and consequences but that is what it is.

I've said it loads of times but for his system to actually work he needs a superior quality of player in those positions. The players he has so far chosen to use or maybe it might be fairer to say he's been able to acquire lack the necessary attributes to play it successfully.

I'll direct you again to Barcelona who play a very similar system with less inverse but the same use of the high line, the same intricate rotational passing patterns, and even the same shape. What differences is is the calibre of player they have and use and specifically the ability of their wife players receive the ball under pressure, take it on forward beat their man consistently and play either a quality final ball or finish the chance themselves. That is what we need in terms of player type even if not in ability level of we want to play Ange ball at the highest level successfully.
 
JerusalemMan said:
I said 'if' not 'when'.
Is he really the recent outlier though? Rather than a very successful result of a deliberate part of the policy?
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The latter. But it took us 4 or 5 x £20/£30m to find someone who could fit straight in. And lets be honest, even that was a bit flukey as without the injuries he'd still be short on game time.

I like the youngsters angle, but there has to be balance. Even Ange mentioned that during last season, that our transfer strategy would shift to more experienced players.
 
billyiddo said:
Chelsea are collecting players like Pokemom cards but are sending him back. I don't think he's shown anything on these shores to show himself worth the risk of taking him on high wages on a 4-5 year contract even if he was going on a free tbh
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All true but now they have such a large squad they're actually in a position to review and trim, I think for a knock down fee and a contract with enhancements for goals etc he'd be worth it. A lot of people wanted Neto last season and I see them as similar.
 
Benny_Lad said:
The latter. But it took us 4 or 5 x £20/£30m to find someone who could fit straight in. And lets be honest, even that was a bit flukey as without the injuries he'd still be short on game time.

I like the youngsters angle, but there has to be balance. Even Ange mentioned that during last season, that our transfer strategy would shift to more experienced players.
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He (Bergval) also still makes lots of mistakes. Many of which put us under real pressure with great opportunities for the opposition to create a goal scoring chance from.

He has loads of attributes and is a great player to watch but he wouldn't yet be close to starting for any of the big boys.

I'm happy we have him though and think the only way we're ever going to be able to properly challenge is to unearth 4 or 5 of these types of players and let them learn on the job, making mistakes safe in the knowledge that we'll reap the benefit after a few years.
 
spurspinter1 said:
The illusory truth effect only goes so far, not sure who you're trying to convince if not yourself. I work with amateur coaches who work with all age groups of young footballers; even those that have a casual background in the sport have tactics and approach to games that they attempt to instill in the players. But, feel free to copy and paste your thoughts without any further discussion if it feels good!



Ah don't do that, we'll have @Bishop wading in to tell us once again how goals don't matter and Johnson is a limited player, unlike all of the unlimited wide forwards out there that probably didn't score a winning goal in a final this season just gone. They can do some fancy stepovers though.

It really will be fascinating to see which way we go. As always, quite a mixed bag on here as to what the priority is. Big questions on whether Ange stays, and if the medical department can forsee Richy actually managing to remain fit for a season or not. Plus Paratici's potential future with us, a lot of moving parts.
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Sorry, my fault, of course he has tactics i was supposed to say poor tactics Ange.
 
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