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Transfer speculation
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JerusalemMan
Chris Perry
Yet our advancement - to a point where we're now accused by some of coming up short (of winning the League!) - was not exactly founded on heavy investment. So I think we can be forgiven for some measure of belief that the next step up could also be done in the same way.
It is the sour grape tainted accusation of smugness which stains the writing that follows. It's not as though anyone at Tottenham has been claiming a better way of doing things, just a different one.
DeleHarry
Jose Dominguez
Im sure Levy would have included a sell on clause
Thats the whole point - Our advancement has been fantastic, but the hardest thing to do in football is actually win things. Plenty of teams overachieve, and in years to come this team/era wont be remebered by anyone except Spurs fans if they havent won anything. We've came close to a league title but fallen short twice hence why he's suggesting investment. Imagine investing in a Bale, Sanchez etc Just one big buy really would elevate us. If you want to believe that we will win things just investing in young players then fine because I love that ideology too but the likelihood is with the big boys season after season getting the best players in Europe this isnt going to work. Compete yes, but actually win titles? Doubtful. He acknowledged we have a top squad but said we need to invest to keep moving forward, and thats a notion that many believe to be correct. Labelling Spurs as being 'smug' was stupid, but the content of the majority of the article is of fair opinion....
JerusalemMan
Chris Perry
But the falling short has only happened in the two most recent seasons. Prior to which we were even further back. We have maintained an upward trajectory thus far so I feel we're entitled to one or two years of thinking we can continue with the same approach that has seen us sustainably improve. If we had stagnated, I would totally agree that large investment is almost the only way. Indeed, I don't argue that investment may well lead to more success anyway. But I think Poch has earned the right now to not be sneered at or dismissed by some media figure because he thinks that he hasn't yet reached the zenith under his apparently preferred approach but can in fact deliver more success his way.
how many players better than what we have for the starting XI do you think are out there and how many would we be able to afford in either transfer fee and wages? and of those, how much of a certainty do you think they are to improve our first XI?
in all honesty i don't see any sure things which are realistic buys for us at this moment in time - any forwards better than Kane? any AMs better than Alli or Eriksen? central midfielders better than Wanyama or Dembele? maybe etc etc
we have a great starting XI which i don't think we can realistically improve on and given the chance most of the top teams in the world would take each of those players off of us at record transfer fees - we can improve the squad, no question and it's something we should be doing but there is no need to be throwing money around trying to improve a starting XI which is already one of the best in the game
StephenH
David Ginola
This
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
I agree with all of this
If we can buy a player we think will make us genuinely better then brilliant
I stand by what I've said to date that only Silva at city would potentially get on our first 11 (never seen uniteds centre back) yet all those have been signed to play for the teams they have signed for. Those signings will make those clubs better (part from united IMO who haven't yet brought in better than they had) and Chelsea who have basically gone like for like and haven't address their weakness in squad depth
I've read the article a different way to you, I don't see him sneering at or dismissing Poch at all. He clearly stated he doesn't want to see Spurs starting XI broken up or the pathway for young players blocked. He looks at Barkley as cover for Eriksen, looks at better cover for Kane. These are valid points that are constantly mentioned on this very forum. The smug reference has let him down as Spurs fans are obviously going to be negative towards him after that, and ignore the valid points in his article....
I used a game changer as an example but keeping it specific to the Martin Samuel thing he said we have a fantastic first XI and just need some better options/cover which is what most say on here. Some should really re read the article and ignore the smug comment because that aside he makes some good points. Chelsea have won the league and aren't resting on their laurels, why should we?
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
Chelsea have sold or will sell a chunk of that team and replace them like for like
I think so far they have done some awful business.
Morata is very very different to Costa which will change their game. The lad from Monaco is replacing Matic and the lad they sold to Watford!!!
Rudiger is replacing Terry
This may be the season they use some of the kids they have no choice
And for us Son was a game changer when he came on a bit
As too was Jansenn away at Swansea and Sissoko did some things well as as sub occasionally
i haven't read the article, i was responding to your game changer comment - i agree with the idea we could and should improve the squad.
RB to replace Walkers skill set.
either a CB or a DM (or both even) - our current DM cover is our starting CB, and his cover at CB is an untested 18 year old, if Wanyama gets injured we are then looking at Dier moving to CM and then CCV coming in at CB - or a formation change, which for me would be a pretty poor situation to be in for an extended period of time.
Sissoko/N'koudou upgrade - not necessarily like for like but another option in the AM positions who would have a more positive impact than either of those two.
however we are in a good position in that we aren't desperate for any of the above and so can take our time
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You might not think Chelsea re doing good business, but the point is you can't afford to stand still. Manchester clubs have strengthened, Arsenal and Liverpool. We need to at the very least improve the quality of some of our back up options, which was pretty much the point Samuel was making....
Agree, although would like to see a bit more of N'Koudou before deciding we need an upgrade....
JerusalemMan
Chris Perry
Do you not think that some of our back up options have been improved from a year ago just by dint of spending more time in training, being subject to focused attention by the coaches and have another year as part of this team unit?
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
Giving our back up options last year with Poch could be huge
Agree with you completely. We had many, many games last year where we had the likes of Janssen, Sissoko, GKN and Onomah on the bench who were miles short of the people on the pitch. Adding some depth to our squad should be our priority this summer which, as you say, is the point Samuel was making
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
I will add that their adding players to catch us up too don't forget
United have to make up 30 goals on us for example
Liverpool have had an odd window in that they brought in an area of strength and haven't yet address their defensive weaknesses other than in an unproven but decent left back
parklane1
Tony Galvin
Who says we are standing still though? we have a lot of younger players who are improving all the time ( just like they have done over the last couple of seasons) so who would say the same improvement will not continue?
As for our back up options, we i would suggest that the likes of Winks, Janssen, and others are all young enough to become even better. As for that articule well i guess its all about the readers opinions but for me he was talking out of his arse.