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Tottenham Hotspur Stadium - Licence To Stand

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The Portugeezer said:
That's fair enough Gazza. I guess my comment was a bit OTT. Just like to see Tottenham get regenerated, make the area more attractive to visitors without the local business losing out to the big corporate entities. The community is important.
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If the place got properly regenerated then stores like Chick King would no longer exist.

Take a look at any part of London that's completed its gentrification - the only places to get food are Pret or Starbucks.
 
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scaramanga said:
If the place got properly regenerated then stores like Chick King would no longer exist.

Take a look at any part of London that's completed its gentrification - the only places to get food are Pret or Starbucks.
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Thank fudge.

I can not wait till the day when places like chick king have been run out of business, im sure the 20 year old lads who fancy a meal there after they have been on a bender the night before think it is cool and part of the experince of match day. But it is not and does not have to be, i would rather eat and walk past places selling nice decent food then a bunch of crap to chavy scum bags.

Tottenham is the fudging arsehole of london, i grew up in wood green and that aint no better. Im allowed to say this as i was from there it is like black people being allowed to say the N word. Tottenham is a disgusting area, i wont give up the club GHod knows i have tried but it is in my blood.

The sooner tottenham gets properly regenreated the better. But i do not seeing it happening. The tories wont put any money in because it is a safe labour seat, labour dont want it to be regenerated because it is a safe labour seat, if people got rich they get sensible and they would not vote labour so labour would lose a seat.

There in lays the problem with tottenham no one really wants to regenerate it except for the club and the club only does so it can get extra money in. If people feel safer staying in the area longer they may spend more at official outlets. Is a shame but it has always been the same, every city needs a dump to puts its unloved.

As much as a dump tottenham is it is our dump with the crappy food places and all and i also feel it suits my character to be on the edge of society, to be feared to have potential greatness but to only show it when it wants, to say fudge you to the politicans of all side that fudge it over.

Chick king is disgusting and awful and should be shut down and the owner arrested for public health violations, but on the ground he is an outcast fighting the system he is my brother in arms against the common enemy of the main stream, against sky t.v. against the EU and all other ****fudges that try to control us.
 
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scaramanga said:
If the place got properly regenerated then stores like Chick King would no longer exist.

Take a look at any part of London that's completed its gentrification - the only places to get food are Pret or Starbucks.
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Not really true Scara, Ive seen loads of chicken shops open opposite a kfc or whatever and still do well. However I do get your point, Starbucks, Costa or whatever would look odd on the high road just due to the dive Tottenham is.

It doesnt help with the socials that live in the area. I work in tottenham (behind the stadium if that helps) and I regularly can smell weed in the air when people should be out to work, and have been asked to pay for sex on a few occasions on my way to work ...

The place is a dive, and opening a few starbucks isnt going to answer the bigger problem. Too much of an ask for a football club to take on.
 
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A few pages back in this thread certain posters were hinting strongly that funding for the new stadium was pretty much in the bag. Unfortunately Tottenham director Sir Keith Mills has just poured a large bucket of cold water on that prospect. confirming what the majority of us suspected all along - a sponsor for the new stadium is still some way off.

AARRGGHH!!!

'The new stadium can only go ahead when £350m funding is secured. To do that, the club need to sell the naming rights. “We don’t have that in place and that’s an integral part of the financing,” says Mills. “Once we get that, it’ll open up the rest of the funding.”

With Middle East organisations keen to attach their names to British sport, Levy has travelled to the region but all Mills is willing to says is: “There’s been some interest.” '
 
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Gazza said:
Not really true Scara, Ive seen loads of chicken shops open opposite a kfc or whatever and still do well. However I do get your point, Starbucks, Costa or whatever would look odd on the high road just due to the dive Tottenham is.

It doesnt help with the socials that live in the area. I work in tottenham (behind the stadium if that helps) and I regularly can smell weed in the air when people should be out to work, and have been asked to pay for sex on a few occasions on my way to work ...

The place is a dive, and opening a few starbucks isnt going to answer the bigger problem. Too much of an ask for a football club to take on.
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I wouldn't expect the likes of KFC in a gentrified area either! That's stage one - commercialisation.

Agree with the rest though - there are some fairly ingrained social issues that will take at least a generation to change.
 
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scaramanga said:
If the place got properly regenerated then stores like Chick King would no longer exist.

Take a look at any part of London that's completed its gentrification - the only places to get food are Pret or Starbucks.
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I disagree.

Even with the best will in the world, Tottenham will never be Knightsbridge or Covent Garden.

Regeneration for Tottenham will mean making it a far more attractive area than it is now. But it won't mean transforming it into an area exclusively for High Street chains and food outlets or upmarket boutiques and restaurants. It's not going to undergo a complete character metamorphosis. Nor does it need to do so.

Most gentrified areas do attract the likes of Starbucks (the surest gentrification sign of all), Boots, M&S etc. But they also happily accommodate myriad corner shops and independent fast food outlets. Go to pretty much any gentrified area in London (however long established) to confirm that that is true. You'll even find the likes of Chick King popping up in the West End.
 
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I honestly didn't know that Chick king is a franchise.

On there website it states its a leading Halal fast food brand.

So I take it this means that all its meats are killed inhumanely, namely by cutting the animals throat whilst conscious.

Interesting to know whether people know this when going there on matchdays.
 
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Superhudd said:
I honestly didn't know that Chick king is a franchise.

On there website it states its a leading Halal fast food brand.

So I take it this means that all its meats are killed inhumanely, namely by cutting the animals throat whilst conscious.

Interesting to know whether people know this when going there on matchdays.
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Isnt it the same with Kosher meat? I didnt know that about Chick King ... I have boycotted halal meat on a personal level.
 
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The last few pages of this thread do make me chuckle... part chuckle, part cringe.
 
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I agree you'll never turn Tottenham into Knightsbridge or Covent Garden but having lived and worked in Southwark for over 35 years I have seen what can be done by regeneration and although it's location isn't as good, with improvements to public transport and the right support from the council similar progress can be made.
 
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K.D.D.D.D.Soc said:
I agree you'll never turn Tottenham into Knightsbridge or Covent Garden but having lived and worked in Southwark for over 35 years I have seen what can be done by regeneration and although it's location isn't as good, with improvements to public transport and the right support from the council similar progress can be made.
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Totally agreed.

Tottenham doesn't need to become a Covent Garden or a Knightsbridge to become a good place to live. That wasn't my point. I was merely disagreeing with the claim that there would be no room for the Chick Kings of this world in a regenerated Tottenham.
 
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K.D.D.D.D.Soc said:
I agree you'll never turn Tottenham into Knightsbridge or Covent Garden but having lived and worked in Southwark for over 35 years I have seen what can be done by regeneration and although it's location isn't as good, with improvements to public transport and the right support from the council similar progress can be made.
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Southwark and Lambeth is being transformed. I was on a bus yesterday from Trafalgar Square (went to see big blue ****) to the Elephant. The Elephant is heaving with people and all there is there is a Wetherspoons and a Nando.

In 10 years time hopefully Tottenham and the Elephant will be stuffed full of yuppies paying £5 for a cup of coffee.
 
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Well the areas that have been mentioned, why are they impoverished areas? What happened to communities making their own neighbourhoods a better place to live?

All this investment malarchy will only serve to move in affluent people that actually have some care about living standards, whilst moving out the locals into other areas, which subsequently will become the new dive.

Its all about education, work ethic, socialism, and vision ... money is only a short term solution.
 
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Going to be great to get back to the Lane tonight, not just for the live footie fix,but to see how far the NLD has progressed since the Sunderland game.
Hope we arent disappointed.
 
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paxtonwolf said:
Going to be great to get back to the Lane tonight, not just for the live footie fix,but to see how far the NLD has progressed since the Sunderland game.
Hope we arent disappointed.
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Well, if you're a big fan of sainsbury's.....everything is dandy
 
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yeah the supermarket is coming along nice. Shame about the stadium next to it.
 
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After reading the very good articles on swiss rambler regarding Arsenals finances and how hamstrung they truly became getting the Emirates up and running, despite Champions league every year, I'm sure those of us keeping an eye on the NDP are acutely aware of the balancing act Levy is facing.

Recent sackings suggest not everything going as he would like. Not to mention the sheer frustration of missing out on Champions league exposure (and cash) so very narrowly in recent seasons.

What I'm wondering is how he sees the Bale situation in relation to the new stadium.

To my mind, keep Bale (especially with the recent massive global exposure, intended or not) and his presence alone will surely yield a a better deal, as Tottenham plus Bale would be a preferable association for a sponsor over Tottenham, the club who have just sold Bale.

Just a guess, but I'm thinking the Bale factor could conceivably add anything up to 10-15% onto any naming rights, such is the hype.

I'm sure Levy has factored this, and also the other associated revenue streams that disappear with Bale gone, and that is why the reputed price tag seems so high. It's 50m for Bale, 25m for his associated revenue streams lost and 25m for the compensation of now selling a poorer package for naming rights to NDP.

I can certainly see how Levy might not even believe 100m adequately covers what could be lost. Therefore, I can see why Bale staying is not unlikely as the bookies suggest.

If I'm considering sponsoring Tottenhams new stadium next year, a world megastar association makes an infinitely more attractive proposition than the club who gave that up.
 
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