Legohamster
Ian Walker
I assume it would have to be upfront.
As we could turn down all bids if it wasn’t to our liking payment wise
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Toby Alderweireld
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I assume it would have to be upfront.
As we could turn down all bids if it wasn’t to our liking payment wise
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
But that’s recent changes and increases
And will be off set with sales too
Expect firmino will get a pay rise their too
Olle73
Jason Dozzell
The supporters of those clubs that got busted or almost got busted also thougth "It never gonna happen" It all about economy, income and spending. So in principal even Spurs can go bankrupt, we are not protected, that would be just too naive to consider.
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
No one is protected but no big club that hasn’t been mismanaged has gone under
Olle73
Jason Dozzell
Olle73
Jason Dozzell
If my memory serves me right, no-one (or at least very few) would call Leeds as mismanaged before the downfall really started. So mismanage is a tag that i most cases are set afterwards.
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
Yeah is easy to say after the event
But Leeds were known at the time to be in big problems
They started negotiations with Seth Johnson from Derby by saying they wouldnt pay him anymore than a figure (can’t remember the number) but it was 4 times his current salary which they had never asked
Can you imagine a competent club doing that??
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Lemonade Money
Les Medley
Yep, that club was well managed, especially the goldfish.
Finney Is Back
Luka Modric
My Dad would've having negotiated with Ridsdale a few times.
What if he only wants to move to an English side?
40m+ this summer or 25m next and a season with a player who is mostly 'injured'
Damaging ourselves to make a point
Ade's folks are ok really
Ramon Vega
Is anybody else still a bit annoyed (and perplexed!) as to why DL allowed such a ridiculous release clause to be placed in his contract!! I still can't see any advantage to us in it?? And they're not daft, they must've known how the market was shifting, so £25m for one of our prized assets is an absolute joke!
If it was the only way he'd sign for us would you rather we hadn't bothered?
Ade's folks are ok really
Ramon Vega
If that kind of release clause was the only way he'd sign for us, shouldn't the alarm bells have been ringing back then?? That smacks of wanting an easy way out if things don't improve for him (which arguably they have, looking at where the club is now!)
I'm not as clued up on the contracts as others i'm sure, but I don't know of any other players that have this kind of release clause (i.e, triggered if he gives us another year and at such a low value!!).
It's the amount that sits uncomfortably with me. The thought that our rivals are licking their lips at the prospect of signing one of the best CBs in the league, possibly Europe, for an absolute snip of £25m.
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
Are we sure he is even going?
It happens time and again, all this sort of press and then before you know it the famous Poch new contract pose...
It happens time and again, all this sort of press and then before you know it the famous Poch new contract pose...
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
The thing with a contract is both sides have to be happy to sign it, or it doesnt happen.
From his point of view, looking after himself is no bad thing.
From the clubs point of view I dont think anyone envisaged the market shifting such that a player we bought for £12m would end up making a £25m release clause look like peanuts.
Its life.
Im still far from convinced its all doom and gloom either, with the way the club is going I think theres every chance he will sign on.
Ade's folks are ok really
Ramon Vega
I think the situation has been exacerbated by the supposed "injury" the club say he has vs. the fitness he and Belgium FA seem to be portraying.
I know Poch likes to bring them back slowly, but in this instance it's just adding fuel to an already very hot media fire.
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
Quite possibly. Though personally I fitered out media hype a long time ago, it doesnt bother me.
I think its pretty obvious when situations beng reported are "genuine". This one? Im not convinced yet.
AS to Toby playing, the couple of appearances he did make he didnt look half his usual level - I can well understand Poch taking him back a step.
Ade's folks are ok really
Ramon Vega
Really?? I disagree. I think the market shift has been on the cards for a long, long time now. The businessmen would've seen it too. It's got out of hand granted, but there were many players going for ridiculous fees & wages around the time Toby signed to suggest it was only going to get higher
Ade's folks are ok really
Ramon Vega
I certainly hope you're right! I'm in the same camp as i have been for Rose. That is, hoping the media hype is all BS and that Poch can get the player back to his best form rather than ship them out.
I look at that back line of Walker, Toby, Jan and Rose from a season or two ago, and it was ridiculously good for, esp when i've been used to the likes of Atouba, Nethercott, Edman, Wipey, Calderwood, Treacle, Scales, Doherty etc. haha
To see us with the best defensive record in the league was a massive step as a club. It's not something you'd associate with us.
Losing Walker wasn't easy to take, but let's not lose anymore. For all the good work Davies and Davinson have done, our defence definitely hasn't looked as solid this year.
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
Yes, really.
Who would have thought, two years ago, the following summer we would pay £40m for a rookie CB who had only a year in european football, in a league that is lower standard than the premiership?
I think people have "normalised" to just how batsh!t crazy prices are now.
They were high, and odd players were really high - usually to super rich clubs.
That didnt, for me, indicate ALL clubs would start spending to such levels.
Liverpool have agreed £75m (I think?) for a rookie midfielder in Germany. Thats just shy of Bale, which not long ago was at the very top of transfer levels.
Thats utterly fudging mental, the whole market is, I dont think its unreasonable to believe when we bought Toby that we thought £25m was a decent level to set the release.
Who would have thought, two years ago, the following summer we would pay £40m for a rookie CB who had only a year in european football, in a league that is lower standard than the premiership?
I think people have "normalised" to just how batsh!t crazy prices are now.
They were high, and odd players were really high - usually to super rich clubs.
That didnt, for me, indicate ALL clubs would start spending to such levels.
Liverpool have agreed £75m (I think?) for a rookie midfielder in Germany. Thats just shy of Bale, which not long ago was at the very top of transfer levels.
Thats utterly fudging mental, the whole market is, I dont think its unreasonable to believe when we bought Toby that we thought £25m was a decent level to set the release.