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Toby Alderweireld

If only life was so straight forward.

Say Toby wants to go to and has been tapped up like Walker but this time to say Manchester United and it is by some distance the best bid?

And ...
We hold the upper hand
Is he gonna wait another year here and maybe not play much at all?
That wound devalue his hand massively (just look at Sturidge for a younger comparable) and make him much less valuable to any club signing him.. and £25m for a 30 year old is decent money, especially for one who hasn’t played

Anything now over £25m is more than we would get in a year too and would be a decent profit

The club can make educated decisions based on facts that we can only guess as fans
 
Here's a question. Say we activate the extra year and the €25 mil thing kicks in. So €25mil activates the release clause but if there are multiple bidders at that point, which is very likely, then I presume we still have a say in where he goes? 25mil is the minimum I guess?
 
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Here's a question. Say we activate the extra year and the €25 mil thing kicks in. Say €25mil activates the release clause but if there are multiple bidders at that point, which is very likely, then I presume we still have a say in where he goes? 25mil is the minimum I guess?

Err no, he gets to sign for whoever he wants, probably the club that offers him the best financial package
 
Here's a question. Say we activate the extra year and the €25 mil thing kicks in. Say €25mil activates the release clause but if there are multiple bidders at that point, which is very likely, then I presume we still have a say in where he goes? 25mil is the minimum I guess?

None of us have (obviously) seen the contract however I'd imagine that his lawyers would have ensured that want can't prevent a transfer to anyone offering £25m....so no, we'd likely have no say. You'd also imagine that possible buyers would push any additional cash to TA via wages/signing fees, not to us.

I get why some say that we should activate the clause. To me it comes down to how Poch intends to use him next year - if he's going to start the season as a first choice (so in the PL starting 11) then I would activate the clause; otherwise I'd try to get £40m - £50m for him this year
 
Here's a question. Say we activate the extra year and the €25 mil thing kicks in. Say €25mil activates the release clause but if there are multiple bidders at that point, which is very likely, then I presume we still have a say in where he goes? 25mil is the minimum I guess?

I’d assume that’s all they have to pay and it’s up to him

our only inout would be bank details and payment terms
 
Fair enough. I thought if there were multiple buyers we had still some say in his destination.
 
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If only life was so straight forward.

Say Toby wants to go to and has been tapped up like Walker but this time to say Manchester United and it is by some distance the best bid?

Toby isn't a Northerner and isn't married to one (I also believe his relationship is in decent shape!!!!)...I think at this stage, unless Poch saw the opportunity for a player the other way as part of the deal, we would resist and sell abroad to a club where he can make his money.
 
If only life was so straight forward.

Say Toby wants to go to and has been tapped up like Walker but this time to say Manchester United and it is by some distance the best bid?

...and Toby says that he only want to go there, meaning that he will see out his contract if his request is not fulfilled.

You can never force a player to sign for club.
 
If one of them offer silly money, it would definitely be right.


Bankrupt would definitely be worse than Toby to english club.

You mean as in Spurs go bankrupt?
We’re in a great financial state and better off than most sides in the world so that’s not gonna happen
 
You mean as in Spurs go bankrupt?
We’re in a great financial state and better off than most sides in the world so that’s not gonna happen

That’s mainly because of our financial policy, we are where we are because we sell players when it’s right for the business.

If he won’t sign for a wage in our structure then we should sell to the highest bidder, whoever it is, right now I’d say that City are so far ahead of us it wouldn’t make much difference to us, likewise, the gulf between us and United/Arse/Pool is too wide for Toby alone to bridge.
 
That’s mainly because of our financial policy, we are where we are because we sell players when it’s right for the business.

If he won’t sign for a wage in our structure then we should sell to the highest bidder, whoever it is, right now I’d say that City are so far ahead of us it wouldn’t make much difference to us, likewise, the gulf between us and United/Arse/Pool is too wide for Toby alone to bridge.

But as I said £10m or even £20M makes little difference on this league. That’s a months tv money or actually less than a months income from the ground

What dies make us more valuable is being more competitive and that’s double edged.

Firstly by getting better and secondly by not making the competition better

We have to look at anything over £25m as a positive as that’s the best we can get by keeping him
 
I'll be disappointed if he choses to leave, but that's modern football for you. The way the club is run I'm confident that plans are in place to find a replacement for him. His career has certainly improved since joining us and who's to say it may dip if he leaves none of his previous clubs fought very hard to keep him.
 
Let’s flip this round a little...

We have son who is out of contract in 2 years I believe

Is happy at the club and has been arguably our 2nd most influential player this season

Could be rabies we have a replacement there in lamela or Moura

If it came down to offering son or Toby thee terms they want, who would you offer the money too?

I know son wouldn’t be offered crazy money like Toby wants but he does play in a position where players are paid more and people seem to see that as key
 
If one of them offer silly money, it would definitely be right.


Bankrupt would definitely be worse than Toby to english club.


How would us not selling him to an English team lead us to go bankrupt?

Has Levy made us all money mad?

Under no circumstances should we be selling the best CB in the league to anyone in England!
 
That’s mainly because of our financial policy, we are where we are because we sell players when it’s right for the business.

If he won’t sign for a wage in our structure then we should sell to the highest bidder, whoever it is, right now I’d say that City are so far ahead of us it wouldn’t make much difference to us, likewise, the gulf between us and United/Arse/Pool is too wide for Toby alone to bridge.

I would have Liverpool down to win the league, or at least push city much closer if they signed Toby.
 
Let’s flip this round a little...

We have son who is out of contract in 2 years I believe

Is happy at the club and has been arguably our 2nd most influential player this season

Could be rabies we have a replacement there in lamela or Moura

If it came down to offering son or Toby thee terms they want, who would you offer the money too?

I know son wouldn’t be offered crazy money like Toby wants but he does play in a position where players are paid more and people seem to see that as key

We have a few players in this situation, it’s going to come to a head soon.

I don’t know how much Ionger we can get away with the way we pay with this current squad.
 
We have a few players in this situation, it’s going to come to a head soon.

I don’t know how much Ionger we can get away with the way we pay with this current squad.

But we pay the squad well and incentivise them too

Most clubs seem to have certain outliers which scew their numbers

Arsenal have 80% under £80k
And 20% over £150k it seems (Ozil and Aubameyang)

Pool are the same with VVD and Milner in the crazy money and the rest probably less than £100k and averaging out a lot lower (although sure I read Mane is on £120k)

Their our two nearest in the wages battles
 
But we pay the squad well and incentivise them too

Most clubs seem to have certain outliers which scew their numbers

Arsenal have 80% under £80k
And 20% over £150k it seems (Ozil and Aubameyang)

Pool are the same with VVD and Milner in the crazy money and the rest probably less than £100k and averaging out a lot lower (although sure I read Mane is on £120k)

Their our two nearest in the wages battles

Mane is on 100k plus/Salah will Be shortly if not already (hopefully for Real) - Firmino the same Courinho was as well.

I can’t imagine Henderson is far off!
 
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