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Tim Sherwood…gone \o/
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Ian Walker
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
Blimey. Is too late to get Polly Toynbee as our manager? I'm sure she reads a lot!!!!
We are doomed, doomed I tell ya!
Blimey. Is too late to get Polly Toynbee as our manager? I'm sure she reads a lot!!!!
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
You show ambition by hiring the best man for the job.
Even if Sherwood somehow manages to create a miracle by being able to be reasonably successful, you can't really tell me that you, Levy or anyone else on the planet thinks he is the "best" possible option Tottenham has?
You show ambition by hiring the best man for the job.
Even if Sherwood somehow manages to create a miracle by being able to be reasonably successful, you can't really tell me that you, Levy or anyone else on the planet thinks he is the "best" possible option Tottenham has?
Bullet
Andy Thompson
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
Right now, yes. For the 69 reasons quoted on the previous 69 pages. Nobody thinks TS is definitely going to succeed, but he is a better choice than Dave Bassett or Tony Adams for an interim manager. Get behind him and see what happens. If we are ****, then you can say so. For now, see what happens and hopefully TS won't talk too much shi.te and his team will be a success.
Right now, yes. For the 69 reasons quoted on the previous 69 pages. Nobody thinks TS is definitely going to succeed, but he is a better choice than Dave Bassett or Tony Adams for an interim manager. Get behind him and see what happens. If we are ****, then you can say so. For now, see what happens and hopefully TS won't talk too much shi.te and his team will be a success.
DHSF
Les Ferdinand
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
The best man for the job or the best man in your view? What attributes and qualities do you suggest someone should have to be deemed as the best candidate for the job? Someone who has won trophies? done that. Someone who has qualifications? done that. Someone who has experience? done that. Guess what? THEY. HAVE. NOT. WORKED.
There is a big difference between being the best candidate for the job and being one who fits the criteria. I have hired people with all the qualifications in the world whilst fitting the criteria and they have failed, on the flip side of the coin, ive hired people with no qualifications and they have shown ability and have been successful.
So who is the best possible candidate? Guardiola. Doesnt mean we would get him or he would be successful.
The best man for the job or the best man in your view? What attributes and qualities do you suggest someone should have to be deemed as the best candidate for the job? Someone who has won trophies? done that. Someone who has qualifications? done that. Someone who has experience? done that. Guess what? THEY. HAVE. NOT. WORKED.
There is a big difference between being the best candidate for the job and being one who fits the criteria. I have hired people with all the qualifications in the world whilst fitting the criteria and they have failed, on the flip side of the coin, ive hired people with no qualifications and they have shown ability and have been successful.
So who is the best possible candidate? Guardiola. Doesnt mean we would get him or he would be successful.
Cochise
Steve Carr
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
Lets face it, not one of the people the club want are happy to come mid season/prior to the world cup. FDB, Laudrup, van Gaal to name a few have said no at this stage of the year. Sherwood is known to the players and can breathe some life into the squad. If he does more than that then all the better, if we finish the season in 10th then we can still name someone else with TS only being on a short contract. It's the best call the club could make at this stage
Lets face it, not one of the people the club want are happy to come mid season/prior to the world cup. FDB, Laudrup, van Gaal to name a few have said no at this stage of the year. Sherwood is known to the players and can breathe some life into the squad. If he does more than that then all the better, if we finish the season in 10th then we can still name someone else with TS only being on a short contract. It's the best call the club could make at this stage
monkeybarry
Jack Jull
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
Then its about supporters got a dose of reality and supported the team and judged on results rather than lettings their ego and personal agendas get in the way
Then its about supporters got a dose of reality and supported the team and judged on results rather than lettings their ego and personal agendas get in the way
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
Mate, supporters = customers, fortunately/unfortunately they have no mandate to take whatever the club throws at them.
I'm checking out of this argument, as I personally think it's a bad call and will cost Tottenham one or two seasons, but the truth is I'll still be here at that point.
Mate, supporters = customers, fortunately/unfortunately they have no mandate to take whatever the club throws at them.
I'm checking out of this argument, as I personally think it's a bad call and will cost Tottenham one or two seasons, but the truth is I'll still be here at that point.
monkeybarry
Jack Jull
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
It's too simplistic to see supporters as customers, customers have a choice to change product, supporters don't.
I'm not wild about the TS appointment either, but I'm not going to pre-judge him (which some fans will do) or not accept him at all (which some fans will, irrespective of if he does well. It's a idiotic cancerous mentality that seems to have crept into football and is just so counter productive)
I'm THFC through and through, and as long as our manager is helping us progress and is playing good football, then I don't.care what their accent is or perceived intellect
It's too simplistic to see supporters as customers, customers have a choice to change product, supporters don't.
I'm not wild about the TS appointment either, but I'm not going to pre-judge him (which some fans will do) or not accept him at all (which some fans will, irrespective of if he does well. It's a idiotic cancerous mentality that seems to have crept into football and is just so counter productive)
I'm THFC through and through, and as long as our manager is helping us progress and is playing good football, then I don't.care what their accent is or perceived intellect
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
I think there's a small minority who have actually written him off. There is a difference between expressing concerns about the appointment and writing him off completely.
It may well prove to be a perfect fit. TS and Spurs. Spurs and TS. We'll have to wait and see.
If I were a betting man, you would tend to look at patterns and history to help make a better judgement on whether it will go one way or the other.
Let's look at the positives. He does know the club. He knows Levy. He knows the youth. I'd like to see us make changes to ultimately become the best of the best. We have invested a lot of money to build innovative state of the art training facilities. We have invested heavily in the team this summer. Ideally I would like to see an overhaul (if it's required) in the way we nurture and bring up our footballers. I want us to be proud of our traditions, heritage, our history. Push and run football. A precursor to what Ajax and Rinus Michels labelled total football, and later Barca evolved to their tiki taka. I want this style, swagger and arrogance in the way we play our football to flow through the club at every level.
I hope Tim Sherwood and co can make this happen. I'm hopeful and optimistic.
As DHSF says lets hope Sherwood is the one that fits the criteria best.
COYS
I think there's a small minority who have actually written him off. There is a difference between expressing concerns about the appointment and writing him off completely.
It may well prove to be a perfect fit. TS and Spurs. Spurs and TS. We'll have to wait and see.
If I were a betting man, you would tend to look at patterns and history to help make a better judgement on whether it will go one way or the other.
Let's look at the positives. He does know the club. He knows Levy. He knows the youth. I'd like to see us make changes to ultimately become the best of the best. We have invested a lot of money to build innovative state of the art training facilities. We have invested heavily in the team this summer. Ideally I would like to see an overhaul (if it's required) in the way we nurture and bring up our footballers. I want us to be proud of our traditions, heritage, our history. Push and run football. A precursor to what Ajax and Rinus Michels labelled total football, and later Barca evolved to their tiki taka. I want this style, swagger and arrogance in the way we play our football to flow through the club at every level.
I hope Tim Sherwood and co can make this happen. I'm hopeful and optimistic.
As DHSF says lets hope Sherwood is the one that fits the criteria best.
COYS
stinkfoot
Eidur Gudjohnsen
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
I'm pretty much in the 'lets just wait and see' camp.
You can't judge someone who has never done it before.
This crazy **** might just work.
As a wise and erudite man once said one christmas time many moons ago......
"Yippie Ki-Yay mother****er!"
I'm pretty much in the 'lets just wait and see' camp.
You can't judge someone who has never done it before.
This crazy **** might just work.
As a wise and erudite man once said one christmas time many moons ago......
"Yippie Ki-Yay mother****er!"
Rock Strongo
dodgy Dave Goosegog
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
This was the only way Levy could appoint.Sherwood without getting.too.much ****. I think Sherwood might show sliced bread wwho's boss.
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This was the only way Levy could appoint.Sherwood without getting.too.much ****. I think Sherwood might show sliced bread wwho's boss.
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Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
Has anyone actually said Sherwood will be a failure?
I'd say that regression to mean would suggest we'd finish at least 6th. In order to do worse than that with our squad (even with dinosaur tactics) would take some kind of injury crisis or intentional **** up.
Has anyone actually said Sherwood will be a failure?
I'd say that regression to mean would suggest we'd finish at least 6th. In order to do worse than that with our squad (even with dinosaur tactics) would take some kind of injury crisis or intentional **** up.
glorygloryeze
Tom Huddlestone
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
I'm sorry i cannot let that one pass- that is PURE BULL****
How can a charlatan get our RECORD PL Points haul, and unluckily miss out on CL by a point, having worked with a squad shorn of two of it's best playmakers in Modric and VDV?
Criticise all you like for this season, when AVB didn't get to reach the 'heights' of the previous season (I think he was fired too early), but please don't talk crap about last year being a total fluke orchestrated by a 'charlatan'.
In fact, you could argue that Sherwood is MORE of a charlatan!
I'm sorry i cannot let that one pass- that is PURE BULL****
How can a charlatan get our RECORD PL Points haul, and unluckily miss out on CL by a point, having worked with a squad shorn of two of it's best playmakers in Modric and VDV?
Criticise all you like for this season, when AVB didn't get to reach the 'heights' of the previous season (I think he was fired too early), but please don't talk crap about last year being a total fluke orchestrated by a 'charlatan'.
In fact, you could argue that Sherwood is MORE of a charlatan!
glorygloryeze
Tom Huddlestone
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
We wont have to wait long to find out how good ol' Timmy is:
Dec 26 - West Brom (H)
Dec 29 - Stoke (H)
Jan 1 - Man Utd (A)
Jan 4 - Arsenal (A)
We'll soon see what Tim is made of.
Oh, and the January Transfer Window is only round the corner:-"
We need to get another LB and possibly another striker (prob best to go for loans)
I have to say I DON'T want BAE back
We wont have to wait long to find out how good ol' Timmy is:
Dec 26 - West Brom (H)
Dec 29 - Stoke (H)
Jan 1 - Man Utd (A)
Jan 4 - Arsenal (A)
We'll soon see what Tim is made of.
Oh, and the January Transfer Window is only round the corner:-"
We need to get another LB and possibly another striker (prob best to go for loans)
I have to say I DON'T want BAE back
DHSF
Les Ferdinand
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
A squad that was still good enough, youre making it out as if his squad was bereft of quality players - which it clearly wasnt. I wont turn this into an AVB v Tim thread and was my bad for doing so in the first place.
Tim is obviously not a charlatan - he has been in football for YEARS so he cant be MORE of a charlatan haha. How can you arrive at that conclusion. Its not like Sherwood was a translator or anything is it before his promotion into management.
A squad that was still good enough, youre making it out as if his squad was bereft of quality players - which it clearly wasnt. I wont turn this into an AVB v Tim thread and was my bad for doing so in the first place.
Tim is obviously not a charlatan - he has been in football for YEARS so he cant be MORE of a charlatan haha. How can you arrive at that conclusion. Its not like Sherwood was a translator or anything is it before his promotion into management.
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
I think Sherwood might actually be our best option. That's not a compliment to NBD, that's a criticism of what's available.
Who publicly stated they wanted the job? Just gHod and NBD as far as I know. Given the choice between an idiot and a mental I would choose the idiot, just.
Levy has pretty much ruined the chance of us getting a manager outside of those willing to kiss the ring whenever he says so. That's OK if you're laundering your blood-stained rubles, but when you have our level of spending power, it's just dumb.
I think Sherwood might actually be our best option. That's not a compliment to NBD, that's a criticism of what's available.
Who publicly stated they wanted the job? Just gHod and NBD as far as I know. Given the choice between an idiot and a mental I would choose the idiot, just.
Levy has pretty much ruined the chance of us getting a manager outside of those willing to kiss the ring whenever he says so. That's OK if you're laundering your blood-stained rubles, but when you have our level of spending power, it's just dumb.
DHSF
Les Ferdinand
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
I dont think we will be buying any players. Maybe an LB but thats about it. No big signings will be made. I was thinking a defender if Kaboom is unlikely to return
I dont think we will be buying any players. Maybe an LB but thats about it. No big signings will be made. I was thinking a defender if Kaboom is unlikely to return
glorygloryeze
Tom Huddlestone
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
AVB got into football management via translation - like Mourinho.
He then went onto manage Porto - like Mourinho.
He then won multiple trophies at Porto - like Mourinho.
He went to manage in England and ultimately was not as successful as Mourinho.
Let's look at Tim. He played football, unlike AVB. BUT he has not managed a football club before, or won a trophy - unlike AVB.
Yes of course AVB is the charlatan, whilst Tim is obviously NOT a charlatan ](*,)
AVB got into football management via translation - like Mourinho.
He then went onto manage Porto - like Mourinho.
He then won multiple trophies at Porto - like Mourinho.
He went to manage in England and ultimately was not as successful as Mourinho.
Let's look at Tim. He played football, unlike AVB. BUT he has not managed a football club before, or won a trophy - unlike AVB.
Yes of course AVB is the charlatan, whilst Tim is obviously NOT a charlatan ](*,)