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Tim Sherwood…gone \o/

Do you want Tim Sherwood to stay as manager?

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Re: Tim Sherwood -Your Manager! 18 month contract confirmed!

DHSF said:
A couple of wins and there will be much more optimism. Although Manure at OT will be a tough task then again I think Timmy will go out there to attack.
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and why not...they have looked very vunerable at OT this season....but yeah Manure is alaways a tough gig.

I think we can all get excited 'IF' we can pull off two home wins on the bounce bringing us to the half-way stage of the season...

I would say people in general and I mean our 7 rivals in the top 8 seem to be writing us off.....or dare I say it laughing at us with this appointment.....but for all the doom and gloom we are still right in the mix this season....6 points off the top and 4 points from top 4.

We can go into our games from now with the 'pressure' removed something that seemed to be a burden going into our games at WHL.....I reckon there will be less expectation from our fans and greater noise from the stands....It is also interesting that we are not even being considered as contenders and maybe we are considered outsiders for the top 4...... pressure..something which Everton are going to have to manage very soon.

If benny comes back we will have cover for the lb position...I would still like us to play Rose first choice....

Basically results from AVB have generally been ok hence we are not out of it in terms of league position.......Now of course Sherwood's appoinment could be a massive mistake OR it could be the required shot in the arm the club needs going into the 2nd half of the season.

People are now assuming we will go 4-4-2 and are saying we will be shown up.....time will tell but I dont think Tim will rigidly go 4-4-2.....I think it suited sunday because Soton were weak defensivley and West Ham was preparation for that......but ask yourself people....is it not a good thing that opponents are now unsure how we will set-up????? We were becoming so predictable under AVB so an element of more flexibility from tim is a bonus for me.......of course if he does stay 4-4-2 rigidly then I will criticise that........but I dont think he will......I do expect 4-4-2 in these 2 home games though.

And also consider we have already played city, Everton & Le **** away we have the chance to get back on track by beating them at home... Man utd fixture will be done soon so that just leaves Pool & Chelsea way where it would be lovely to get revenge, but difficult all the same.

Now I know I am a bit of a romantic and the title seems fanciful but stranger things have happened.....I really hope this club can build some momentum.....keep under the radar....and keep in touch of the top teams.....Some of the foreign players might be settling and with simple instructions may just find they enjoy being part of an exciting top 8 in the prem.....

Let others laugh at us and dismiss our chances......We can use this to our advantage and make up some ground.....People need to realise we really do have a talented squad.......All we can do is hope Tim gets more out of the players than AVB....because if he does we will not have to worry about the dark days of mid-table mediocrity.
 
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Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

Jonathan Wilson:

Tim Sherwood has had two games in charge of Tottenham Hotspur. In the first, his team, sixth in the league, played West Ham United, 17th in the table, at home in the quarterfinal of the Capital One Cup. In the second, his side played a Southampton side eighth in the table and missing six first-team regulars in the Premier League.

In both matches Sherwood fielded an attacking 4-4-2. Both matches were open, end-to-end encounters. Both were games that, given the personnel available, Tottenham should have expected to win: both became a crap-shoot, with chances at either end. Tottenham lost to West Ham but beat Southampton. And that was enough to get Sherwood an 18-month contract.

Not only that, but such was the antipathy of Andre Villas-Boas, who was sacked last Monday after a 5-0 defeat to Liverpool, that many have hailed the two games Spurs have played under Sherwood as the start of the revolution, a welcome antidote to the last days of Villas-Boas.

Maybe Sherwood has played his cards incredibly cleverly. Maybe he has deliberately adopted a devil-may-care, caution-be-damned, early-90s 4-4-2, fill-the-box, want-it-more-boys, drunks-slugging-it-out-in-a-pub-car-park approach, because he knows it sets him apart from Villas-Boas, who was always checking his statistics on his metaphorical clipboard like a pernickety supervisor on a stockcheck, biros arranged neatly in his shirt pocket.

Maybe, having got the job, having cleansed White Hart Lane of all traces of Portuguese technocrattery with a swift blast of Blackburn Rovers circa 1995, he will show more tactical subtlety. But, at the moment, this is a bewildering appointment that seems to have more to do with deeper battles for the soul of English football than with what is best for Tottenham.

Football management recently had become a game for smart, young, clever men who espouse theories of play and specialize in analyzing data: the focus is far more on the management than on the football. It's no longer about instinct, having a feel for the game, knowing which players need an arm around the shoulder and which a slap in the face to get them going. And there is resistance to that, partly because football is an instinctively conservative game and partly because British society generally is suspicious of intellectualism.

Sherwood is of the old school. He speaks like a manager from 20 years ago. He plays gung-ho 4-4-2. He hasn't even completed his coaching badges -- and is permitted to manage in the Premier League only because he was enrolled on a course beginning in March, although he will presumably now have to defer that (coaching badges, of course, are something else the traditionalists scorn).

Sherwood is the anti-technocrat and in that represents a lurch back towards the school of Harry Redknapp, who was dismissed in summer 2012. Such is Redknapp's popularity among certain sections of the media and football public that his sacking in itself was enough to set many against Villas-Boas -- and, as the nexus of alliances is traced, it's worth pointing out that Sherwood is a business partner of Redknapp's son, Jamie, a former Spurs player and now a television pundit.

What is most baffling is that Spurs, of all clubs, seemed set up for the technocratic approach. They moved early to appoint a director of football, who in theory is supposed to ensure continuity of philosophy throughout the club. Done properly, as the example of Swansea City shows, that allows a club to buy players to fit a basic system that is then enacted and refined by a head coach. Swansea has seen Roberto Martinez, Paulo Sousa and Brendan Rodgers move on without changing its style of play and without its progress being halted. At the very least, the appointment of Sherwood shows that process has failed at Spurs.

Villas-Boas favored a lone front man and a packed midfield. He wanted his side to control games -- and, until the last month of his reign, he basically achieved that; the problem was turning possession and chances into goals. Perhaps his prickliness had undermined morale to the point that he had to go, and the defeats to Emirates Marketing Project and Liverpool were abject, but for Sherwood, the technical coordinator, to be promoted and rip up the blueprint immediately is evidence that there was no continuity of philosophy through the club. How many of the seven summer signings, brought in at a cost of £110 million, suit his approach?

Perhaps Sherwood has been touched with genius. He has, at least, got Emmanuel Adebayor playing again -- although the way Villas-Boas has been blamed for his handling of a player who has fallen out with every club he's ever played for is baffling. That he was prepared to hand a debut to the 19-year-old French midfielder Nabil Bentaleb on Sunday suggests he will give youth a chance.

Sherwood may be a great success; what makes his appointment so startling is the lack of evidence. This is a shot in the dark: it may go right, but it could equally go horribly wrong.


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BrainOfLevy said:
Jonathan Wilson:

Sherwood may be a great success; what makes his appointment so startling is the lack of evidence. This is a shot in the dark: it may go right, but it could equally go horribly wrong.
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So after all that - he sums it up by saying it can go right or wrong - a bit like EVERY appointment there is. I agree it can go right or go wrong - but give him an opportunity.

Sherwood is a punt no doubt but I have this hunch he will be a success because above all else, I think he will suit the players and that is a crucial relationship.
 
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milo said:
I said that I wanted AVB to be given more time and I think that Sherwood should be given a chance to prove himself. The people running thge club obviously see something in him and I remain open minded about his appointment.

I hope that people do not try to turn this into a them and us argument again. Haven't we seen enough factionalism and in fighting over managers?
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=D> 100% agree. Clean slate. Lets give him a chance.
 
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DHSF said:
So after all that - he sums it up by saying it can go right or wrong - a bit like EVERY appointment there is. I agree it can go right or go wrong - but give him an opportunity.

Sherwood is a punt no doubt but I have this hunch he will be a success because above all else, I think he will suit the players and that is a crucial relationship.
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yeah after all that its like.....'no **** sherlock!' why is everyone so sure we are just going 4-4-2 forever now.....I hope Tim has something about him and mixes it up depending on circumstances......we all just like to assume its 4-4-2 there is your meat & 2 veg....enjoy.......

It is either he really is rigid 4-4-2 meat and two veg or alot of people are underestimating him.
 
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Why is there such snobbery around 442 anyway? I bet City fans aren't complaining.
 
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Rossi22 said:
Why is there such snobbery around 442 anyway? I bet City fans aren't complaining.
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dont get me wrong...with our personel at the moment I thinks its the best way to go in terms of scoring goals, gaining confidence & winning matches....

I dont have a problem with 4-4-2 but I wouldn't want it to become our trademark I guess..

I suppose our 4-4-2 is a myth anyway.....we have a squad of players comfortable in multiple positions anyway.......we are pefectly capable of mixing it up in game.
 
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Truth said:
It doesn't fill you with confidence, does it?

What was the last book you read?
I don't read books. I read the Daily Express and The Star.

Not the Guardian?

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2008/sep/26/1
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There's more from that piece that's interesting:

Were Spurs right to get rid of Dimitar Berbatov? You weren't his biggest fan, were you?
No. But I love him as a footballer. But when everything's not rosy for him, there are problems. He's the sort of player who can get managers the sack. He can throw his toys out of the pram at times and, as a manager, you have to make sure he's 100% committed to your football club. If not, he can be a bad apple and you don't want that around your squad.

The story is that you got him [Roy Hodgson] sacked …
I've actually spoken to Roy about this. He was on live TV once and he was talking to Jimmy Hill. He said that I got him sacked because I had too much influence on the rest of the players. When I was asked about it, I said I didn't want to take all the credit.

Boom boom. You didn't get on very well with Glenn Hoddle, though, did you?
I love what he's doing at the moment with his academy, not that I want to give him a plug.

Yes, best not to stray into that whole plugging minefield again.
As a manager, though, he loved the game and he loved Tottenham but we clashed. I had an opinion and he obviously didn't want to hear it.
Too much writing in it.
 
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Great article again by Wilson. Absolutely spot on. It is absolutely a baffling choice at this stage of our development.

I think those saying Sherwood will be a success is basing it on blind optimism.

I think the fundamental difference between what City have been doing and us is that they play with Fernandinho and Toure in CM. We have been partnering Dembele aptitude Eriksen and Siggy. I'd say play Sandro and Dembele in the middle and we'll have a lot better balance
 
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diego_maradona said:
Great article again by Wilson. Absolutely spot on. It is absolutely a baffling choice at this stage of our development.

I think those saying Sherwood will be a success is basing it on blind optimism.

I think the fundamental difference between what City have been doing and us is that they play with Fernandinho and Toure in CM. We have been partnering Dembele aptitude Eriksen and Siggy. I'd say play Sandro and Dembele in the middle and we'll have a lot better balance
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Well it's not like Sandro was an option was he?
 
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Jordinho said:
If you think you were the only one that responded to GB's statements I'd say you weren't paying attention.
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:) there could have been a number of reasons for kingdawson saying that and he could have changed his mind since, but on the face of it, after the rant against gutterboy, that's pretty funny.
 
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diego_maradona said:
Great article again by Wilson. Absolutely spot on. It is absolutely a baffling choice at this stage of our development.

I think those saying Sherwood will be a success is basing it on blind optimism.

I think the fundamental difference between what City have been doing and us is that they play with Fernandinho and Toure in CM. We have been partnering Dembele aptitude Eriksen and Siggy. I'd say play Sandro and Dembele in the middle and we'll have a lot better balance
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Who said WILL BE? Most are saying he MAY BE... A bit like that turgid of an article where after all his criticism the writer then ends it with the wise words of 'it may go right it may go wrong - blimey.
 
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Jonathan Wilson sounds like a little bitch whose belief system gets shaken everytime someone wins playing 442.

Eriksen and Dembele in centre mid, with Sig and Lamela coming narrow from wide areas is, apparently, "a swift blast of Blackburn Rovers circa 1995." Or, "caution-be-damned, early-90s 4-4-2, fill-the-box, want-it-more-boys, drunks-slugging-it-out-in-a-pub-car-park approach." Well then, I guess that's what Pellegrini has been doing too, without knowing it. Or does it just apply to coaches who aren't in Jonathan's 'in-crowd'?

He writes a lot of pseudo-intellectual t0ss, can't stand him. No doubt, that will make a few posters here burst into tears and furiously bang away at the keyboard -- they can also f**k off.
 
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the dza said:
He writes a lot of pseudo-intellectual t0ss, can't stand him. No doubt, that will make a few posters here burst into tears and furiously bang away at the keyboard -- they can also f**k off.
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:ross: brilliant
 
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@ManuBaio claims there's been contact between Tottenham and Italian manager Cesare Prandelli.
 
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