Tim Sherwood…gone \o/

[chancer]

Re: Temporary Tim

Another interview suggesting to me that Tim has the x-factor needed for leadership.

And on the pitch, we created more chances there than in any game I can remember this season. Tactically, Sherwood had Pocchitino & his staff scribbling on their notepads during the 2nd half looking for a solution. Pretty impressive pwnage by Sherwood considering he's only had 5 or 6 days to prepare 2 games.

If we can't get Frank de Boer now - I actually doubt we'll get him in summer either - then we should just leave it with Sherwood. By far the simplest solution and no compelling reason to believe anyone else would do better.

 

[Spur of the moment]

Re: Temporary Tim

Sherwood's plusses -

• we are getting the ball forward much more quickly
• we are getting players in the box
• Adebayor has decided he wants to play

Minuses:

• defensively we still look very shaky

 

[indospurs]

Re: Temporary Tim

I'd like to see what he has in mind to fixourselves defensively ... aside from getting the first CBs back in, we need cover from the middle and have players tracking back. But I thought I saw enough good things in the last 30 mins I caught it. Key is being tight from the off so we don't have to play catch up.

Now I wonder if Levy will give him the chance to hold the reins.

 

[Nigeyman]

Re: Temporary Tim

Sherwood's plusses -

• we are getting the ball forward much more quickly
• we are getting players in the box
• Adebayor has decided he wants to play

Minuses:

• defensively we still look very shaky

100% agree... I would add a shaky Lloris to the minuses list to......I felt he was trying to throw away our lead at times........lloris needs getting into imo

 

[Modric THFC]

Re: Temporary Tim

I think he's just an honest working class fella. So ****ing what? Seems some on here want some toast master at the club picking the team.
Well done Tim!

I'm sure Sherwood can brown some toast with the best of them. Bet he has a nice chrome 4 slicer as pride of place in his kitchen.

 

[Harry_Perkins]

Re: Temporary Tim

Another interview suggesting to me that Tim has the x-factor needed for leadership.

And on the pitch, we created more chances there than in any game I can remember this season. Tactically, Sherwood had Pocchitino & his staff scribbling on their notepads during the 2nd half looking for a solution. Pretty impressive pwnage by Sherwood considering he's only had 5 or 6 days to prepare 2 games.

If we can't get Frank de Boer now - I actually doubt we'll get him in summer either - then we should just leave it with Sherwood. By far the simplest solution and no compelling reason to believe anyone else would do better.

Think he will get at least another few games with Christmas and New Year around the corner. No foreign manager in particular is going to be in a rush to upend their families at this time of year. Give him the few games and lets see where we are at the end if it.

 

[The Portugeezer]

Re: Temporary Tim

Tim's been vindicated. Good result away from home against a team with a good home record this season. Tim's a straight talker, he tells it like how it is and he understand what kinda football he wants to see played at Spurs.

People judging him and his intelligence on how he speaks are just snobs. We are victims of the oppressive British class system.

Orwell wrote that Britain was “the most class-ridden society under the sun.”

 

[DubaiSpur]

Re: Temporary Tim

I have to admit I'm warming to him. He's still a bit too relentlessly cavalier for my tastes (imagine a midfield of Dembele and Eriksen against, say, City ) but he's honest, he's got balls (introducing Bentaleb instead of Capoue) and he's managed to get us passing more incisively, playing a deeper line, countering at speed with relentless purpose and most importantly, scoring.

If our top choice targets prove to be unavailable (I'm thinking de Boer, Benitez or Favre ( [-o< ) here) then by all means give him the season if he wants to do the job.

 

[Nigeyman]

Re: Temporary Tim

I have to admit I'm warming to him. He's still a bit too relentlessly cavalier for my tastes (imagine a midfield of Dembele and Eriksen against, say, City ) but he's honest, he's got balls (introducing Bentaleb instead of Capoue) and he's managed to get us passing more incisively, playing a deeper line, countering at speed with relentless purpose and most importantly, scoring.

If our top choice targets prove to be unavailable (I'm thinking de Boer, Benitez or Favre ( [-o< ) here) then by all means give him the season if he wants to do the job.

agree with this...... Dubai probably more suitable for 'next spurs manager' thread but who is Favre???? pardon my ignorance just not heard of him.

I think Sherwood is ok to be given the season.....especially as I cant see anyone out there who I think wow....really want him.

 

[Raziel]

Re: Temporary Tim

I'm amazed people thought today was a good game

Very good result, excellent play by our front two, but the rest was dire.

Game in general looked like a championship game, first time in a while, we seemed very poor in possession, we definitely didn't control the game.

Bentaleb was a good sub, Chadli was an admission that Eriksen/Lamela/Siggy was not enough cover, and the Defoe sub made no sense to me (Holtby on for Eriksen would have helped the team more)

I think you got a guy who is way too desperate to be anti-AVB, another day we could have won 5-2, or lost 4-3, this won't work.

 

[AdamB]

Re: Temporary Tim

I'm amazed people thought today was a good game

Very good result, excellent play by our front two, but the rest was dire.

Game in general looked like a championship game, first time in a while, we seemed very poor in possession, we definitely didn't control the game.

Bentaleb was a good sub, Chadli was an admission that Eriksen/Lamela/Siggy was not enough cover, and the Defoe sub made no sense to me (Holtby on for Eriksen would have helped the team more)

I think you got a guy who is way too desperate to be anti-AVB, another day we could have won 5-2, or lost 4-3, this won't work.

Agree with you. We didn't look remotely like a top 4 team and, whilst the result was great, Sherwood's selection was baffling. And even though the Bentaleb substitution when Dembele got injured worked out well, it was a cavalier change.

Today told me that I don't want him managing spurs

 

[DubaiSpur]

Re: Temporary Tim

agree with this...... Dubai probably more suitable for 'next spurs manager' thread but who is Favre???? pardon my ignorance just not heard of him.

I think Sherwood is ok to be given the season.....especially as I cant see anyone out there who I think wow....really want him.

There's no ignorance there mate, believe me. Apparently almost nobody in England has ever heard of Lucien Favre, including all the pundits, commentators, betting firms and even our board, so I don't blame you for not knowing who he is.

He's the Borussia Monchengladbach manager. Managed to get unfancied BM to fourth in 2010/2011, and has them sitting in fourth place again this year. Also got relegation candidates Hertha Berlin to 4th spot in 2008/2009, after competing for the title for most of the season. Won a lot of things in Switzerland, launched the careers of, among others, Marco Reus, Marc Andre Ter-Stegen, Blerim Dzemaili and Gokhan Inler (indicating his preference for blooding young, academy-produced players) and is apparently tactically astute and a great motivator. He's also just the right age - 56, not too old but not too young and inexperienced either.

In my mind, he's the perfect candidate. Most of England apparently disagrees with me, though. Ah, well.

 

[africanspurs]

Re: Temporary Tim

I'm amazed people thought today was a good game

Very good result, excellent play by our front two, but the rest was dire.

Game in general looked like a championship game, first time in a while, we seemed very poor in possession, we definitely didn't control the game.

Bentaleb was a good sub, Chadli was an admission that Eriksen/Lamela/Siggy was not enough cover, and the Defoe sub made no sense to me (Holtby on for Eriksen would have helped the team more)

I think you got a guy who is way too desperate to be anti-AVB, another day we could have won 5-2, or lost 4-3, this won't work.

soldado was actually not as involved as you might think save for the chances he got

and i am pretty sure those chances were carved out by the rest of the team

each to his own i guess, it seemed like every time we had the ball we were looking to do something with it. i.e score

it wasnt the best game, as in men v boys, but it was definately us having the lions share.

not sure if you're factoring the level of opposition either?

actually i've started this off wrong

whats the actual issue..why did you think this was a bad game and why did you think it was like a championship game?

 

[Cochise]

Re: Temporary Tim

Defensively we were poor, I counted too many occassions where we were 1v2 at our back post

Possession wise, I think the idea was to make them uncomfortable at the back and we did with quick passes down the flanks for Ade and Soldado. This meant we didn't dominate possession but did stretch them. In the first 15 minutes of the second half we had 62% possession. I agree with Raziel though, we sacrificed too much for the goal threat. Had Soldado been clinical today it would've looked a great gamble, instead we were bricking it towards the end.

Hoddle made a great comment in the build up that if they managed to get someone between Dembele and the back four we would be in trouble and that was what Llalana did, it also was part of the reason why Sherwood left his seat in the stands so early on to correct things. I'm happy to give the man some more time, but only if we see some improvement back there. Bentaleb was definately a better defensive foil than Dembele

 

[punk_is_back`]

Re: Temporary Tim

I'm amazed people thought today was a good game

Very good result, excellent play by our front two, but the rest was dire.

Game in general looked like a championship game, first time in a while, we seemed very poor in possession, we definitely didn't control the game.

Bentaleb was a good sub, Chadli was an admission that Eriksen/Lamela/Siggy was not enough cover, and the Defoe sub made no sense to me (Holtby on for Eriksen would have helped the team more)

I think you got a guy who is way too desperate to be anti-AVB, another day we could have won 5-2, or lost 4-3, this won't work.

Indeed it looks like he is trying to prove a point by not being like AVB, we could easily have been 2-0 down against a better team. If we leave ourselves that open against Arsenal or even someone like Everton we will get murdered. You can tell the players tired again towards the end too. I don't like the man and I don't think he'll be a good manager, but I did like that he put on a lot of our ball players on at once. The only problem was, in a 4-4-2 a CM of Dembele and Eriksen is suicidal.

 

[Nigeyman]

Re: Temporary Tim

There's no ignorance there mate, believe me. Apparently almost nobody in England has ever heard of Lucien Favre, including all the pundits, commentators, betting firms and even our board, so I don't blame you for not knowing who he is.

He's the Borussia Monchengladbach manager. Managed to get unfancied BM to fourth in 2010/2011, and has them sitting in fourth place again this year. Also got relegation candidates Hertha Berlin to 4th spot in 2008/2009, after competing for the title for most of the season. Won a lot of things in Switzerland, launched the careers of, among others, Marco Reus, Marc Andre Ter-Stegen, Blerim Dzemaili and Gokhan Inler (indicating his preference for blooding young, academy-produced players) and is apparently tactically astute and a great motivator. He's also just the right age - 56, not too old but not too young and inexperienced either.

In my mind, he's the perfect candidate. Most of England apparently disagrees with me, though. Ah, well.

nice one thats me educated then fair enough......sounds very impressive when you put it like that!!!

 

[Jordinho]

Re: Temporary Tim

Think he will get at least another few games with Christmas and New Year around the corner. No foreign manager in particular is going to be in a rush to upend their families at this time of year. Give him the few games and lets see where we are at the end if it.

This is what I've been thinking too. Sherwood will be in charge for at least one more game.

 

[DubaiSpur]

Re: Temporary Tim

Out of curiosity, what do people think about him starting the game from the directors' box? Personally I thought it was a great move: it's far easier to analyse the patterns of a game from up there than from down on the touchline, and his later admission that we were poor early on probably came from watching us from the stands and gaining a top-down tactical view. I don't see any harm in him starting most games from up there, just to see us through the first 20-odd minutes before clambering down and doing the standard pointy-shouty routine afterwards.

 

[Hashegotthesackyet?]

Re: Temporary Tim

To be fair to him, he said in the interview that he wasn't happy with the opening few minutes.
At least he moved pitch side to try and address them.
I've definitely warmed to him, probably more so, after hearing his post match comments.
Straight talking and like a tom cat with 3 balls, love it!

 

[Modric THFC]

Re: Temporary Tim

I'm amazed people thought today was a good game

Very good result, excellent play by our front two, but the rest was dire.

Game in general looked like a championship game, first time in a while, we seemed very poor in possession, we definitely didn't control the game.

Bentaleb was a good sub, Chadli was an admission that Eriksen/Lamela/Siggy was not enough cover, and the Defoe sub made no sense to me (Holtby on for Eriksen would have helped the team more)

I think you got a guy who is way too desperate to be anti-AVB, another day we could have won 5-2, or lost 4-3, this won't work.

Of course we didn't control the game we played 2 in the centre against 3.
If we were trying to control the game we would have just put bodies in the middle.
We were trying to create chances.