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Tim Sherwood…gone \o/

Do you want Tim Sherwood to stay as manager?

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Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

paxtonwolf said:
Anyone heard a rumour about him punching Aaron Lennon after the game last night??
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I've heard a lot of rumours about him punching a lot of players. I don't think it happened, but for so many people to find it believable says a lot about our manager.
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

paxtonwolf said:
Anyone heard a rumour about him punching Aaron Lennon after the game last night??
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I was looking earlier and seems to have gone unmentioned.

Sounds like a silly rumour but was a big rumour that Tim flipped out big style last night
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

a spur from swansea said:
I think he should be looking at himself,we're going backwards,we were fighting for a top three spot two years ago now we be struggling for a top 8 spot this time next year,he was the one who sacks people and employs people,he should use the same judgement on himself.
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As a club we're standing still at worst. That Rosicky wondergoal is pretty much what separates us from Arsenal.

We've been fighting for a top 4 spot this season just like we have in previous ones. There's only one person to blame for ****ing up a top 3 challenge and it ain't Levy.

He's only sacked managers long after the fans have turned on them.

Struggling for top 8 next year? What kind of crystal ball are you using?
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

Jordinho said:
As a club we're standing still at worst. That Rosicky wondergoal is pretty much what separates us from Arsenal.

We've been fighting for a top 4 spot this season just like we have in previous ones. There's only one person to blame for ****ing up a top 3 challenge and it ain't Levy.

He's only sacked managers long after the fans have turned on them.

Struggling for top 8 next year? What kind of crystal ball are you using?
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what are you on about...top 3??? no blame on Levy??? :lol:
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

scaramanga said:
Had the season started that way I'd have been very vocal in my dislike for him, but had he shown a system (even one that needed work), I'd have at least waited to see how that worked out. He's been here long enough to have something like that in place, instead he just flounders about shouting and throwing stuff, playing everyone out of position, and using whatever formation pops into his tiny little mind. If he gets any more out of control then I think someone on the touchline will have to duck a dirty protest.
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I would argue that he's not playing anyone out of position, just changing personnel too often. But aside from that, I do agree that by this stage we should at least be starting to see some kind of system falling into place by now, be that a system where we hit teams on the break, try and dominate possession, play long balls into the corner/Ade, rely on getting the ball to Eriksen at every possible opportunity. I think at various points we've seen pretty much all of these employed but there hasn't been much evidence of him thinking 'this is the system that suits the players at my disposal', I need to go with this for now.

As I've said repeatedly, I think some of the abuse he gets on here is totally un-justified, but his decision to play Sig and Bentaleb against the most in form team in the league is just baffling. Some people are trying to justify it with the plan was 'best form of defense is attack', that still doesn't justify not playing a defensively minded player against a team who all season have exploited space in-front of the back four of superior teams than us. Just because you play Sandro does not prevent you from going 'attack is the best form of defense'.

Before anyone tells me that this is with the benefit of hindsight, I mentioned their ability to work in those spaces in the OMT and how important it was to stop that. I also said that Sandro has to play in the Sandro thread.
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

scaramanga said:
Let's just continue on this one before changing tack shall we?

The initial 6 months of settling in has already happened - with the players playing at least as well (if not better) during that settling in period than they are now.

So the next 6 months (of which we are nearly at an end) is where I said we should see some attempt at a system, the raw basis of something coming together and a method the players can all learn. That's not to say this method will be complete or successful yet, but we should see the basis of some groundwork being laid down (or "The Sainsburys next door" as it's known in Spurs parlance).

As I've already said, I'm not seeing that - it's just not happening. The only person who seems to have less of a clue about our formation/approach/tactics than our players is our manager.

there was even less reason to be cheerful under our previous manager. You still haven't pointed to one single game you were proud of under him. Apart from the glib, "it takes 6 months for new players to settle " comment, I put it to you that there was scant to no evidence that the players would inevitably "come good in the second half of the season" . Which players are those exactly?

Answers in bold.

Still not sure why you need to bring up AVB in order to try and defend Timmeh - our current (is he still here?) incumbent fares poorly in comparison to a manager that was coping with 7 first team players adapting to the country/league. Now they're settlled the YTS boy can't get a string of passes out of them, let alone results.
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Which players are "settled"? Apart from Eriksen, the rest of the Beatles have been a universal flop in the second half as well as the first half of the season. Lamela and Chiriches are injured and therefore excused. The rest meh at best.

Your pathetic discounting of the few games we DO deserve some credit for, shows that you are simply not objective and will dismiss any possible TS contribution.

Again, please list the "triumphs" under AVB this season. Or can't you?
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

At the minute everton and liverpool have passed us this season,man ure could ovetake us so that puts us seventh,at the minute Saudi Sportswashing Machine are vying with southampton for 8th/9th spot ,at the minute southampton are playing much better than us,yeah we beat them 3-2 but it took a defensive slip,a lucky referee decision for us to come back to 2 all.

We had 89 minutes to score a against a very poor goon side,even paul merson said that that they were poor on that day and that was summed up at chelski the following week,we never looked like scoring. How can we blame sherwood,he's come in half way through a season,he tried to kick a few arses and ruffle a few feathers but that hasn't worked,because three or four of our players have switched off and ,don't care because they be off ,they know they've been tapped up plus there is a world cup around the corner.

I wonder if liverpool board will sack their manager or sell their best players because they want go a different way in how they run things..... of coarse they won't but we did,we sacked a manager because of various reasons with one he wanted to manage his own country,idiots.They sacked AVB and it was the board who used the term ,'project'when they appointed him,we be in no different place if he was in charge now,so why sack him or infact why employ him in the first place??

The board will appoint a high profile manager again,pay him 4/5 million,gets us excited again,get the season ticket money in and then we be fighting for fourth again,its just a cycle with levy and the board,offer us hope,use big words,give us promises blah blah frigging blah...........
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

Pirate55 said:
Which players are "settled"? Apart from Eriksen, the rest of the Beatles have been a universal flop in the second half as well as the first half of the season. Lamela and Chiriches are injured and therefore excused. The rest meh at best.
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You have to admit Scara, that is a fair point.

Eriksen - Glimpses of greatness under AVB, more greatness under TS
Chadli - w*nk under AVB, decent under Sherwood
Paulinho - w*nk under both

Lamela - Injured all season pretty much
Capoue - Injured all season pretty much
Chiriches - Injured alot, but pretty decent under both managers
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

glorygloryeze said:
I love how 'beating a very good side' 1-0 in a scrappy game we hardly deserved a point is something you laud TS for but if it was a certain previous manager that had done that you would have called it 'turgid' :lol:
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Did AVB manage to beat any of the top eight sides this season, even "turgidly"? Who was it that beat Everton, Man U and Soton twice this season?

I am still waiting for you or Scara or anyone to point to an AVB " triumph" this season.
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

Millsy_Yiddo said:
You have to admit Scara, that is a fair point.

Eriksen - Glimpses of greatness under AVB, more greatness under TS
Chadli - w*nk under AVB, decent under Sherwood
Paulinho - w*nk under both

Lamela - Injured all season pretty much
Capoue - Injured all season pretty much
Chiriches - Injured alot, but pretty decent under both managers
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They're all settled now I suspect. Let's see how they do under a professional manager next season.
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

Pirate55 said:
Which players are "settled"? Apart from Eriksen, the rest of the Beatles have been a universal flop in the second half as well as the first half of the season. Lamela and Chiriches are injured and therefore excused. The rest meh at best.

Your pathetic discounting of the few games we DO deserve some credit for, shows that you are simply not objective and will dismiss any possible TS contribution.

Again, please list the "triumphs" under AVB this season. Or can't you?
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There aren't any triumphs this season full stop. We had a massively changed team that needed to settle and before they could we sacked a professional to replace him with the child minder.

I think you really need to show a lot more ability to reason before you could even begin to describe a post as pathetic, least of all one of mine.
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

Pirate55 said:
Did AVB manage to beat any of the top eight sides this season, even "turgidly"? Who was it that beat Everton, Man U and Soton twice this season?

I am still waiting for you or Scara or anyone to point to an AVB " triumph" this season.
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Seeing as you're addicted to the barrels now, who was it that gained our solitary point against the top 4? How has TS done?
Silly isn't it, but you took it there, being easily pleased by TS as you are.

We could make this more fun and compare low points under both. Each further humiliation under TS has happened with less excuses: yesterday we played a whole game with 11 men and played FAR WORSE than when AVB lost 5-0 in December (when we palyed a quarter with 10 men).

AVB showed FAR more in his first 6 months than the current manager. If you then say how 'turgid' things have turned out under AVB, could not TS plumb further depths if he gets as long?
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

a spur from swansea said:
At the minute everton and liverpool have passed us this season,man ure could ovetake us so that puts us seventh,at the minute Saudi Sportswashing Machine are vying with southampton for 8th/9th spot ,at the minute southampton are playing much better than us,yeah we beat them 3-2 but it took a defensive slip,a lucky referee decision for us to come back to 2 all.

We had 89 minutes to score a against a very poor goon side,even paul merson said that that they were poor on that day and that was summed up at chelski the following week,we never looked like scoring. How can we blame sherwood,he's come in half way through a season,he tried to kick a few arses and ruffle a few feathers but that hasn't worked,because three or four of our players have switched off and ,don't care because they be off ,they know they've been tapped up plus there is a world cup around the corner.

I wonder if liverpool board will sack their manager or sell their best players because they want go a different way in how they run things..... of coarse they won't but we did,we sacked a manager because of various reasons with one he wanted to manage his own country,idiots.They sacked AVB and it was the board who used the term ,'project'when they appointed him,we be in no different place if he was in charge now,so why sack him or infact why employ him in the first place??

The board will appoint a high profile manager again,pay him 4/5 million,gets us excited again,get the season ticket money in and then we be fighting for fourth again,its just a cycle with levy and the board,offer us hope,use big words,give us promises blah blah frigging blah...........
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When you hire an inexperienced novice, who clearly is out of his depth, half-way through a season what can you expect?
Once we hire a manager who knows how to manage players, squads and the media we'll be fine imo
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

Paulinho had some decent performances under AVB, but I stand by my belief that Charlie Adam has scared him ****less and now his fear of missing the world cup through injury could make him miss it through poor performances.
 
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