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Tim Sherwood…gone \o/

Do you want Tim Sherwood to stay as manager?


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Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

And they don't come much ****tier unless you are at the bottom of the league as well.

Yes, so **** a job that you can turn down the opportunity to strengthen in January because 'we have a great squad' (Tim's words) ...yes of course, a really **** job:rolleyes:
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

I've no problem with Sherwood saying Hoddle had no man management skills. Hoddle doesnt.

Sherwood obviously has some. Adebayor is evidence of that.

Sherwood simply saying to Adebayor "im picking you" does'nt realy constitute evidence of man management skills to me. Adebayor has done exactly the same as if any of us were manager and put him in the team. On recent evidence, Sherwoods man management skills look atrocious. The club is rotting from the inside out.
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

Only Spurs could end up in this position after all the good work of recent times. The difference between us and other clubs is startling.
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

Yes, so **** a job that you can turn down the opportunity to strengthen in January because 'we have a great squad' (Tim's words) ...yes of course, a really **** job:rolleyes:

I agree that was a mistake - and said so at the time. But look at the injuries he has had to contend with. It has been impossible to get any sort of settled side with virtually every outfield player not being available to him at some time or another during his short tenure.
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

For the sakes of argument:

- On paper, given injuries and rotation, the team selection was reasonable. You can argue it other ways of course, but pre-match people in the OMT weren't dismayed.

- All three goals were down to basic individual brainlessness, two of them at set pieces. Nothing much to do with tactics.

- The main culprit for our downfall was, again, the players seizing up with fear and uncertainty. It was paralysis out there once the chips were down. No on-field leadership, again.

- Our £17m Brazilian international won't tackle people, and pulls out when he's the one tackled.

- Walker, Sandro and Kaboul are not fit, but options to replace them are limited.

- The form of some of our marquee players - Lloris, Vertonghen, Soldado - is atrocious.

- We were beaten by the better team, and yet 1-3 was harsh. They scored probably with every effort on target unless I'm very mistaken.

- Sherwood has been given a hospital pass the way things have panned out this season.

........

I guess those would be the defences. If anyone were putting defences up, that is.

Well put.
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

I've no problem with Sherwood saying Hoddle had no man management skills. Hoddle doesnt.

Sherwood obviously has some. Adebayor is evidence of that.


Not massively sure adebayor is a great indicator of that.

Theoretically, adebayor is annoyed because he's not playing, all Sherwood has to do to make him happy is play him, it's hardly rocket science.
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

If Hoddle wasn't good at man management it was because he couldn't stand players questioning his judgement.

If Sherwood isn't good at man management it's because he can't stand players on ridiculous wages not giving 100 percent for the club.

Or so it would seem.

Which approach do you prefer?
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

If Hoddle wasn't good at man management it was because he couldn't stand players questioning his judgement.

If Sherwood isn't good at man management it's because he can't stand players on ridiculous wages not giving 100 percent for the club.

Or so it would seem.

Which approach do you prefer?

I find the idea that if you criticise players or aren't always trying to be their mate then you are bad at man management to be a bit bizzare to be honest. It's saying that the only way to improve performance or motivation is the 'arm round the shoulder' type, but that isn't the only way.
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

Exactly. 'Arm round the shoulder' my jacksy! More like a ten hole steel boot up their axxxs with some of the players I've seen wearing the shirt this season.
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

I find the idea that if you criticise players or aren't always trying to be their mate then you are bad at man management to be a bit bizzare to be honest. It's saying that the only way to improve performance or motivation is the 'arm round the shoulder' type, but that isn't the only way.

The whole idea of 'man-management' skills is very difficult to grasp in the first place. Ferguson is quoted as an example but he kept falling out with players on a regular basis. You can afford that if you have a very strong power base at your club and in the press. It's all about player power these days and if they don't like you, there isn't much you can do about it.

Gross is a typical example. He had a fairly decent career but he was ridiculed on his first day on the job and never recovered from that. Redknapp, on the other hand, could get away with anything because there was always some journo willing to put a positive spin on it.

It's a bit cyincal but as long as your most influential players are well-paid and get enough playing time, they'll like you. It might make a difference in some circumstances but when you're as disorganised and out of shape as we are, it's quite irrelevant, in my opinion.
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

At least his free-kick training with Eriksen is paying off

[video=youtube;OwN28qcmXTM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwN28qcmXTM[/video]
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

a mite pompous at times, but worth a read...

The Last Word: Tim Sherwood out of his depth at a flawed club


Spurs chairman gave him the job and £110m of unsuitable players. Now the manager may pay the price

Michael Calvin



Tim Sherwood was the gaffer reinvented as a geezer. His body language screamed "do you want some?" His gilet was unzipped, and his gimlet eye suggested he had become unglued. The response to the taunts of Benfica coach Jorge Jesus revealed his desperation, inexperience and vanity.

Tottenham's latest interim manager compounded the error by subsequently sounding like a self-possessed estate agent regaling his golf partners with the tale of how he put the waiter at the local gastropub in his place: "He doesn't mind himself, does he, to be fair? Nah. Not for me, thanks."

The ghost of Bill Nicholson winced and retreated still further into the shadows. The dignity he once represented has been replaced by empty sloganeering, corporate cynicism and a Dead Man Ranting. Should Spurs lose today's North London derby, things will turn decidedly ugly at White Hart Lane.

Self-appointed experts on social media have already tied Sherwood to the stake. Feckless multi-millionaire footballers have helped to collect the kindling. All it requires for the inevitable conflagration to begin is for Tottenham chairman Daniel Levy to play with his special set of matches.

Since English managers are as fashionable as Emerson, Lake & Palmer, Sherwood's contemporaries have a vested interest in his success. The virulence of the criticism directed at him poses inconvenient questions about why, and how, he finds himself so exposed.

He is manifestly out of his depth. His selection policy is random and reactive. He is emotionally incontinent and lacks intellectual rigour. His authority has been fatally compromised. He is the product of a dysfunctional system, promoted beyond his pay grade.

It was expedient to appoint him, when Levy lost his nerve and his patience with Andre Villas-Boas. He inherited an unbalanced squad. Franco Baldini, Tottenham's politically adroit director of football, has been allowed to escape responsibility for a £110 million mistake.

Sherwood will pay for having the courage of his convictions. He reminded players of their responsibilities, and chose to publicly belittle them. The recklessness with which he played to the gallery suggested that he knew his 18-month contract had effectively been written in invisible ink.

For the past month he has had to endure managers like Frank de Boer, Louis Van Gaal and Roberto Mancini shamelessly coveting his job. Such jockeying for position is normal, but conventionally conducted under cover or by proxy.

In an age of sterile soundbites, finely calculated agendas and facile mission statements, Sherwood's candour has been refreshing. He deserves praise for getting the best out of Emmanuel Adebayor, and has the ardour of a natural enthusiast.

He once staged a game for promising local schoolboy players on a pitch marked out in the back garden of his Hertfordshire home. After half an hour, he could no longer stand being a spectator. He dashed inside to find his football boots.

Yet he also represents the professional arrogance of the ultimate boys club. He embodies a show-us-your-medals culture, in which the qualities required to win the Premier League as a player are expected to translate seamlessly to management. Former team-mates speak of him warmly as a no-compromise character.

Sherwood excelled in a development role but lacks the necessary qualifications to manage at the highest level. Ironically, given the popularity of his directness in press conferences, the outstanding module in his current coaching course involves media relations.

He will never receive due respect because it is denied at source. Levy has treated him with feudal disregard. Losing the boardroom is ultimately more significant than losing the dressing room. He's Tottenham's Roberto Di Matteo, a human sandbag, destined to be discarded.

Tottenham's players are modern mercenaries with no real conception of their club's culture and traditions. They don't relate to the lyricism of Danny Blanchflower or the defiance of Dave Mackay. They're there for cash and career advancement.

They know also that the gaffer will soon be a gonner.
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

a mite pompous at times, but worth a read...

The Last Word: Tim Sherwood out of his depth at a flawed club


Spurs chairman gave him the job and £110m of unsuitable players. Now the manager may pay the price

Michael Calvin



Tim Sherwood was the gaffer reinvented as a geezer. His body language screamed "do you want some?" His gilet was unzipped, and his gimlet eye suggested he had become unglued. The response to the taunts of Benfica coach Jorge Jesus revealed his desperation, inexperience and vanity.

Tottenham's latest interim manager compounded the error by subsequently sounding like a self-possessed estate agent regaling his golf partners with the tale of how he put the waiter at the local gastropub in his place: "He doesn't mind himself, does he, to be fair? Nah. Not for me, thanks."

The ghost of Bill Nicholson winced and retreated still further into the shadows. The dignity he once represented has been replaced by empty sloganeering, corporate cynicism and a Dead Man Ranting. Should Spurs lose today's North London derby, things will turn decidedly ugly at White Hart Lane.

Self-appointed experts on social media have already tied Sherwood to the stake. Feckless multi-millionaire footballers have helped to collect the kindling. All it requires for the inevitable conflagration to begin is for Tottenham chairman Daniel Levy to play with his special set of matches.

Since English managers are as fashionable as Emerson, Lake & Palmer, Sherwood's contemporaries have a vested interest in his success. The virulence of the criticism directed at him poses inconvenient questions about why, and how, he finds himself so exposed.

He is manifestly out of his depth. His selection policy is random and reactive. He is emotionally incontinent and lacks intellectual rigour. His authority has been fatally compromised. He is the product of a dysfunctional system, promoted beyond his pay grade.

It was expedient to appoint him, when Levy lost his nerve and his patience with Andre Villas-Boas. He inherited an unbalanced squad. Franco Baldini, Tottenham's politically adroit director of football, has been allowed to escape responsibility for a £110 million mistake.

Sherwood will pay for having the courage of his convictions. He reminded players of their responsibilities, and chose to publicly belittle them. The recklessness with which he played to the gallery suggested that he knew his 18-month contract had effectively been written in invisible ink.

For the past month he has had to endure managers like Frank de Boer, Louis Van Gaal and Roberto Mancini shamelessly coveting his job. Such jockeying for position is normal, but conventionally conducted under cover or by proxy.

In an age of sterile soundbites, finely calculated agendas and facile mission statements, Sherwood's candour has been refreshing. He deserves praise for getting the best out of Emmanuel Adebayor, and has the ardour of a natural enthusiast.

He once staged a game for promising local schoolboy players on a pitch marked out in the back garden of his Hertfordshire home. After half an hour, he could no longer stand being a spectator. He dashed inside to find his football boots.

Yet he also represents the professional arrogance of the ultimate boys club. He embodies a show-us-your-medals culture, in which the qualities required to win the Premier League as a player are expected to translate seamlessly to management. Former team-mates speak of him warmly as a no-compromise character.

Sherwood excelled in a development role but lacks the necessary qualifications to manage at the highest level. Ironically, given the popularity of his directness in press conferences, the outstanding module in his current coaching course involves media relations.

He will never receive due respect because it is denied at source. Levy has treated him with feudal disregard. Losing the boardroom is ultimately more significant than losing the dressing room. He's Tottenham's Roberto Di Matteo, a human sandbag, destined to be discarded.

Tottenham's players are modern mercenaries with no real conception of their club's culture and traditions. They don't relate to the lyricism of Danny Blanchflower or the defiance of Dave Mackay. They're there for cash and career advancement.

They know also that the gaffer will soon be a gonner.

Y'know…I'm developing a seige mentality over all this. F U C K this bloke! He's late to the Sherwood-bashing party by a week, and further, he's starting to make some dangerous statements about our club and how it's legends might see such a situation.

F uck off!
All of you!

'Feudal disregard…' congratulations, your award is in the post.

Whatever about the merits, or not, of Timothy Sherwood, it's getting very f ucking TEDIOUS reading everyone and their Mum come out and stick a boot in. They stuck boots on AVB, now on him, always on our club…

F U C K OFF ALL OF YOU!


COYS!

STEFF

p.s. I hope my stunning eloquence and literary skills have not conjured 'feudal disregard' for me here on GG!!!
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

Y'know…I'm developing a seige mentality over all this. F U C K this bloke! He's late to the Sherwood-bashing party by a week, and further, he's starting to make some dangerous statements about our club and how it's legends might see such a situation.

F uck off!
All of you!

'Feudal disregard…' congratulations, your award is in the post.

Whatever about the merits, or not, of Timothy Sherwood, it's getting very f ucking TEDIOUS reading everyone and their Mum come out and stick a boot in. They stuck boots on AVB, now on him, always on our club…

F U C K OFF ALL OF YOU!


COYS!

STEFF

p.s. I hope my stunning eloquence and literary skills have not conjured 'feudal disregard' for me here on GG!!!

Who realy cares what a journalist writes ? Dont let it bother you.

COYS
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

You now it has got bad when your biggest rival becomes your main cheerleader: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...s-to-support-under-pressure-Tim-Sherwood.html


Anyone reckon Timmeh could actually get his P45 tonight if we get tonked again?

I do. The thought that we could get hammered today and lose every single game till the end of the season, and he will still not get sacked is, frankly, ludicrous. I fully expect him to go "if" the worst happens tonight (as in a real thorough heavy beating).

Who knows, we might even win.
 
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