Kandi1977
Vic Buckingham
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The Official 2017/18 Premier League Thread
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Legohamster
Jack Jull
Everton are abysmal.
How can they be so bad with the players they have?
How can they be so bad with the players they have?
Bedfordspurs
Terry Naylor
Daisuk
Nayim
Rooney might've saved his ass with a pen. I don't know, maybe they'll give him time, but they've been insanely brick this season.
Legohamster
Jack Jull
Koeman is an arrogant bellend.
Maybe, but they are not this overrated.
What clueless defending by Bruno
Bedfordspurs
Terry Naylor
Koeman never lasts anywhere and gets found out as a fraud
Everton would have been miles better with someone like Dyche
Legohamster
Jack Jull
Forster really isn't all that is he?
Kandi1977
Vic Buckingham
He's a big lad, and it certainly took some time to get up, but don't really think he's the one to blame for that goal.
Gazza Dazzla
Chris Perry
It amazes me how Shelvey seems to be so highly rated, I've seen a fair bit of him and he looks poor every time. The narrative is that if he had the tempremant then he'd be playing at a higher level. Well I call BS! If he had the ability he'd be playing at a higher level, he was well and truly found out at Liverpool and looks poor against Prem opposition.
I always thought exactly the same about Barton as well, sooooo overrated!
I always thought exactly the same about Barton as well, sooooo overrated!
braineclipse
Terry Dyson
Guardiola looking on track to making City the first club to join Europe's elite since... since...? I genuinely struggle here.
When was the last time an English club came up against one of the 2-3 best clubs in Europe and didn't look the underdog?
When was the last time an English club came up against one of the 2-3 best clubs in Europe and didn't look the underdog?
Would have been Liverpool in the 80s I guess. I can't remember it in my life-time. When I was a kid, Milan were the superclub, with Barca next (Romario, Hagi, Stoichkov etc).
Then again, the Man Utd team with Ronaldo that won the league and European Cup double was an excellent team. I know they beat Chelsea in the final, did they play any of the giant clubs en-route? Was that the year they beat Barca in the semis? They played it like an underdog though iirc.
So yeah, I guess it'd be Liverpool.
Gazza Dazzla
Chris Perry
Yea in the early 2000's English teams had a few seasons (maybe just a couple?) as semi final regulars in the CL.
I think we are being a little blinkered in airbrushing the original lottery winners from history
Decent record, this...
2004 - Champions League Semi-Final
2005 - Champions League Semi-Final
2006 - Champions League 2nd Round
2007 - Champions League Semi-Final
2008 - Champions League Final
2009 - Champions League Semi-Final
2010 - Champions League 2nd Round
2011 - Champions League Quarter-Final
2012 - Champions League Winners
2013 - Champions League 1st Round/Europa League Winners
2014 - Champions League Semi-Final
2015 - Champions League 2nd Round
2016 - Champions League 2nd Round
Decent record, this...
2004 - Champions League Semi-Final
2005 - Champions League Semi-Final
2006 - Champions League 2nd Round
2007 - Champions League Semi-Final
2008 - Champions League Final
2009 - Champions League Semi-Final
2010 - Champions League 2nd Round
2011 - Champions League Quarter-Final
2012 - Champions League Winners
2013 - Champions League 1st Round/Europa League Winners
2014 - Champions League Semi-Final
2015 - Champions League 2nd Round
2016 - Champions League 2nd Round
braineclipse
Terry Dyson
For sure a decent record. But that's not what I asked. At no point during that run did I feel that they came up against one of the truly top clubs inn Europe (Real, Barca, Bayern in recent years) as anything other than an underdog.
If City played Barca or Real now you don't think they'd be the underdog?
He did say City are "looking on track" not that they are there yet. I think that's fair enough, they look to be heading in that direction where they can dominate a game, even against one of those top sides. It will be interesting to see them play one of them and find out.
*edit -- if not dominate, then play their own game at least.