The "Official" 2013/14 Other teams matches thread

[Robspur12]

Stoke are ****e, anyone who lines up with Charlie Adam as your central midfielder is going to have problems. Ozil reminds me of a toad. Amazing how Arsenal seem to nab young players from other European clubs academies. Anelka, Fabregas and now Gnabri and I'm sure there have been others. It's like they stand outside with a bag of sweets.

 

[scaramanga]

Ramsey > Wheelchair

Jenas > Wheelchair.

 

[Pandy]

Stoke are ****e, anyone who lines up with Charlie Adam as your central midfielder is going to have problems. Ozil reminds me of a toad. Amazing how Arsenal seem to nab young players from other European clubs academies. Anelka, Fabregas and now Gnabri and I'm sure there have been others. It's like they stand outside with a bag of sweets.

:lol:

The good thing about it is they normally give them inordinately high wages which means if they stick about for a few years they end up being on silly money whilst not being very good due to a succession of wage rises. This has prevented Arsenal from getting rid of players like Denilson and Bendtner (even Chamakh who had high wages due to signing on a free), who end up being farmed out on loan again and again because no-one can afford to pay a decent fee AND their wages. Pretty sure scum were subsidising some of those players' wages while out on loan too..

This is why they have such an enormous wage bill and they have taken so long to feel financially secure enough to spend big. Without this hoovering up of young talent at top whack, they might have recovered financially from the stadium quicker and spent money while they still had a couple of world class players instead of waiting until they had sold pretty much every last one of them before buying another.

 

[metalgear]

Write them off at your peril. Fergie may have gone but Rooney looks like he's back to his best and Van Persie is still the best striker in the league. You have a better squad than them that's obvious, but those two can carry them.

not good enough to win the league for me. still in it for top four though with a real 2-man goal machine up front.

 

[Libero]

Write them off at your peril. Fergie may have gone but Rooney looks like he's back to his best and Van Persie is still the best striker in the league. You have a better squad than them that's obvious, but those two can carry them.

I wouldn't write United off, after all it is the same side that won the league last season but to my mind this was always going to be a season of transition just simply because of the magnitude of the decision of SAF to retire. If a constant that has been as such for 26 years suddenly changes then it is bound to be felt. That's exactly why I don't really understand certain sections of their support calling for Moyes head already regardless of how serious or not they are.

Did anyone really think Moyes was going to walk in and it was all going to run just as it had? It is going to be a season of transition for Man Utd but anyone who thinks they will suddenly struggle to make the top 4 is deluded. I think they will finish 2nd/3rd with a few hiccups along the way but they most certainly need to invest in some extra quality out wide in January. Young has never been good enough and I think Valencia has probably shot his bolt, couple of good seasons and that is it. They need moving on and need to sign some exciting talent that can unlock defences from out wide with pace and skill.

Oh and they need to somehow accomodate Kagawa.

 

[SWP29]

Write them off at your peril. Fergie may have gone but Rooney looks like he's back to his best and Van Persie is still the best striker in the league. You have a better squad than them that's obvious, but those two can carry them.

As I said, I have never seen the club like this. Everywhere, from the boardroom to the players to the tactics to the fans, is filled with negativity. Manchester United haven't been in a state like this for about 30 years. People say that it's the same team that won the league: it's not really, is it? The players might remain, but any team in the history of football would be severely weakened by the loss of Ferguson. I've never bought this 'power shift' ********, and I am still far from it. It takes more than a heavy victory to confirm yourself as the better team. But I have rarely seen a club filled with such negativity as much as this United team. Even its best current player (Rooney) was reluctant to commit his future on Tuesday

But your boys lost to Cardiff and should have lost to Stoke. It doesn't matter so much that they lose to you if they beat Cardiff and Stoke where you failed

You could possibly add 'should have lost to Hull' to that list too. But the fact is, any of those games could have gone either way, and it just so happens that all of those games were missing a certain Vincent Kompany. He is the difference between us challenging for 1st or 3rd place. I am hereby opening the debate: is Vincent Kompany the best centre back in the world? It is the 'other clubs thread' after all.

 

[Ginolius]

You could possibly add 'should have lost to Hull' to that list too. But the fact is, any of those games could have gone either way, and it just so happens that all of those games were missing a certain Vincent Kompany. He is the difference between us challenging for 1st or 3rd place. I am hereby opening the debate: is Vincent Kompany the best centre back in the world? It is the 'other clubs thread' after all.

Yes.

 

[AuroRaman]

I am hereby opening the debate: is Vincent Kompany the best centre back in the world? It is the 'other clubs thread' after all.

You could potentially start a new thread for this.

I would say 'yes'. Definitely the best in the Premier League. And I can't think of any CB's abroad that are better at the moment. He seems like a very likeable chap and also very committed to City. Good to see that in a player.

 

[Superted]

You could possibly add 'should have lost to Hull' to that list too. But the fact is, any of those games could have gone either way, and it just so happens that all of those games were missing a certain Vincent Kompany. He is the difference between us challenging for 1st or 3rd place. I am hereby opening the debate: is Vincent Kompany the best centre back in the world? It is the 'other clubs thread' after all.

He's not even the best centre back in Belgium ...

 

[SWP29]

He's not even the best centre back in Belgium ...

 

[Superted]

All jokes aside, you're probably right. Wouldn't mind some of that magical Belgian fairy dust for some of our footballers.

 

[DubaiSpur]

We are the most Belgian team in the league, with Verts, Chadli and Dembele. If we end up getting that Januszaz bloke we were liked with, we'll have four. The only way we could get more Belgian is if we superimposed Tintin on the club logo.

 

[indianspur]

We are the most Belgian team in the league, with Verts, Chadli and Dembele. If we end up getting that Januszaz bloke we were liked with, we'll have four. The only way we could get more Belgian is if we superimposed Tintin on the club logo.

i think we should go in big for Benteke in Jan as well

I fricken love Belgium

 

[braineclipse]

You could potentially start a new thread for this.

I would say 'yes'. Definitely the best in the Premier League. And I can't think of any CB's abroad that are better at the moment. He seems like a very likeable chap and also very committed to City. Good to see that in a player.

I would agree with best in the league.

For me it's tough to say best in the world. Other candidates for me would be Thiago Silva, Chiellini and perhaps Ramos. Comparing those players across leagues is very difficult imo, but I would say that I can't see any centre back in the world that's clearly better than Kompany.

 

[AuroRaman]

I would agree with best in the league.

For me it's tough to say best in the world. Other candidates for me would be Thiago Silva, Chiellini and perhaps Ramos. Comparing those players across leagues is very difficult imo, but I would say that I can't see any centre back in the world that's clearly better than Kompany.

Thiago Silva was the other that came to mind. Haven't seen enough of him though.

 

[chancer]

I am hereby opening the debate: is Vincent Kompany the best centre back in the world? It is the 'other clubs thread' after all.

When you add his mentality/personality/leadership qualities to his outstanding ability on the pitch, there must be a case that he is.

I've noticed on forums of other clubs that despite most people despising City these days, nobody has a bad word to say about Kompany as a player or person/character.

 

[Superted]

It doesn't hurt that he's on old school Championship Manager legend.

 

[Robbo]

Could we potentially end up with **** and us fighting for the title this season?
Both have started out fairly convincingly - more so than any of City, United or Chelski, IMO.

If so, lets make sure this season it's us finishing one point ahead of them.

 

[Jordinho]

Could we potentially end up with **** and us fighting for the title this season?
Both have started out fairly convincingly - more so than any of City, United or Chelski, IMO.

If so, lets make sure this season it's us finishing one point ahead of them.

Right now I'd say it's 5 teams that can win it, but I don't think we should consider anything a title race until xmas.

 

[Ginolius]

I just watched the Manchester derby and city were terrifying. I don't think anyone would have lived with them on that performance - i just hope it was a one off as if they can get to the point they start do that every week they'll walk away with the league.

I assumed that it was United looking poor, and Valencia/young were indeed awful, but city looked like I'd expected after their summer and had pace, technique and power everywhere.

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