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The Goon Thread

To be fair he has a right to be furious about the Ramires foul, it might have been unintentional but it was late and it was poor.
 
Walcott said: "Last year, we were so many points behind no-one ever thought we would make it. We've got a game in hand but we need to clock up these points fast.

"The gap doesn't worry us. We can't worry about them (Spurs).

"We hope they do drop points, but we've got to concentrate on ourselves, win games - and we've got a big game on Wednesday when we have to pick ourselves up.

"We are ready, it's our game in hand, we have to get three points and, no disrespect to West Ham, we should win that game.

"This team is getting better every year. We don't want to be standing still. We need to be right up there at the end of the season, Champions League football and competing as well.

"It means a lot. It's one of the reasons why I decided to stay. I feel we can and should be there. I still think we will (make the top four) and I think we'll be fine.

"The Champions League is massive. I've had so much experience. I'm only 23 and yet I've played so much in the Champions League and not many players my age would have had that experience.

"I know how good it is, I know that the players in our dressing room will get better from playing in the Champions League, playing against the best in the world.

"It turns you into a better player, definitely. You go to different stadiums, you experience that. We went to Schalke recently and I'd already been there from the World Cup 2006 and it's good to go to these places, be prepared. You can't get bigger than the Champions League."

"I think there's a lack of belief as to how good we can be. We've got some very, very good players here. I think players don't believe they are good enough at times. But, trust me, I see them every day in training and they should believe that.

"We need to start realising how good we are. We showed some great stuff in the second half at Chelsea but it's time we did that from the start on.

"If we just look at the second half, forget the first half, I think we were too slow, sloppy closing down and we've got to show more commitment. We gave them too much space as well.

"As soon as we pressurised them a bit more, pushed up higher and the manager said if we got that early goal then it would be different.

"It wasn't meant to be, but we gave the manager something to think about and we can't be slow off the blocks like that again.

"We've got a great bunch here, a great manager and he always puts it upon himself which is hard because we are the players out there every week. We try to win for him, we need to win for him because he's been very helpful for us young players coming through."

"Even Cech said to me afterwards, 'Great finish.' From a world class keeper, that means a lot. It's little things like that coming from players who I look up to, watch every week that means a lot to me.

"It was always important to get the future sorted. I always said I wanted to stay and I'm happy that we came to an agreement with the club.

"In terms of goals and assists this season has been successful for me. I want to stay fit, keep playing and improving.

"It has been tough through the negotiations. It hasn't always shown it on the pitch and off the pitch but deep down it has been tough, not just for me but for my family, my partner, they were all getting hit with it every week and every day. I'm so pleased it's over.

"I can deal with the speculation but it's more my family and friends who thought I might not have been able to cope.

"But I've dealt with it and I think that shows that I've matured as a man. I can deal with these sort of things. I've never thought about that side of things too much because I've always trusted the manager, spoken to the other players and I always said I wanted to stay.

"It's difficult. Sometimes it's up and down.

"If you're not playing - and I wasn't at the start of the season - then it can be difficult. It's best to do your talking on the pitch, show what you can do and I've always been happiest when I've been able to do that.

"I've been happy with the last couple of seasons, to be honest. But this season I've been able to be more consistent, score goals and enjoy the big occasions.

"But the sort of person that I am is someone who would rather not score if it means the team wins. I know what Arsenal should be and that's why I committed myself to them for the long term."


http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/theo-walcott-interview-on-arsenal-finishing-1548346?
 
High point of Walcott's, and Arsenal's, season is the 5-2 win over us. You would have thought that outcome would have propelled each club in different directions. It has, but not the way you'd think. They went on to draw their next two, then lose at home to Swansea, while we went on a three-win run.

Despite Arsenal enjoying a four-win run through Christmas, we've nicely outpaced them since our last meeting, taking nine ponts more than they have. We've taken 24 out of a possble 33 points, they've taken 15 out of 30, with tomorrow's home match with West Ham to balance out games played. Let's assume they'll win that because West Ham always seem to submit to their inferiority complex with Arsenal. And we know who Karren Brady will be cheering for. So, assuming they're four points back after tomorrow, here's the fixture lists until our next meeting:

We get Norwich and WBA away, home to Saudi Sportswashing Machine, then away to West Ham.

They get home to Liverpool and Stoke, away to Sunderland, home to Aston Villa.

I'm sure we look at all four as winnable. They'd be looking at Liverpool and Stoke as worrisome. Anything that works to increase our lead would be good since we've got the tougher run-in after we play them.

We've got away trips to Liverpool, Swansea, Chelsea and Stoke, and home games with Everton and ManCity. They've got away trips to Swansea and, maybe, QPR to worry about, plus ManU and Everton at home.

For four weeks beginning the end of March to Feb. 20, we go Swansea away, Everton home, Chelsea away, ManCity home. Very tough stretch.

They have a far easier time of it with Reading home, WBA away, Norwich home, Fulham away.

Apart from part two of the NLD, That's where the rubber meets the road in our season. If we're still in fourth(or better) after that, we're in good shape.

PS - I haven't overlooked Everton in my thoughts. Until we play Arsenal, they have a fairly easy schedule, with only a visit to ManU to concern them. The run-in has them playing a tougher set of matches.

And Liverpool? Tough twosome coming up, both away, to Arsenal, and ManCity. Be good to see a bigger gap form as they have all remaining matches against top clubs at home - Us, Swansea, Chelsea and Everton.
 
High point of Walcott's, and Arsenal's, season is the 5-2 win over us. You would have thought that outcome would have propelled each club in different directions. It has, but not the way you'd think. They went on to draw their next two, then lose at home to Swansea, while we went on a three-win run.

Despite Arsenal enjoying a four-win run through Christmas, we've nicely outpaced them since our last meeting, taking nine ponts more than they have. We've taken 24 out of a possble 33 points, they've taken 15 out of 30, with tomorrow's home match with West Ham to balance out games played. Let's assume they'll win that because West Ham always seem to submit to their inferiority complex with Arsenal. And we know who Karren Brady will be cheering for. So, assuming they're four points back after tomorrow, here's the fixture lists until our next meeting:

We get Norwich and WBA away, home to Saudi Sportswashing Machine, then away to West Ham.

They get home to Liverpool and Stoke, away to Sunderland, home to Aston Villa.

I'm sure we look at all four as winnable. They'd be looking at Liverpool and Stoke as worrisome. Anything that works to increase our lead would be good since we've got the tougher run-in after we play them.

We've got away trips to Liverpool, Swansea, Chelsea and Stoke, and home games with Everton and ManCity. They've got away trips to Swansea and, maybe, QPR to worry about, plus ManU and Everton at home.

For four weeks beginning the end of March to Feb. 20, we go Swansea away, Everton home, Chelsea away, ManCity home. Very tough stretch.

They have a far easier time of it with Reading home, WBA away, Norwich home, Fulham away.

Apart from part two of the NLD, That's where the rubber meets the road in our season. If we're still in fourth(or better) after that, we're in good shape.

PS - I haven't overlooked Everton in my thoughts. Until we play Arsenal, they have a fairly easy schedule, with only a visit to ManU to concern them. The run-in has them playing a tougher set of matches.

And Liverpool? Tough twosome coming up, both away, to Arsenal, and ManCity. Be good to see a bigger gap form as they have all remaining matches against top clubs at home - Us, Swansea, Chelsea and Everton.

Nice summary, thank you.
 
Let's compare our strikers and theirs:

Giroud- Good in the air, skillful but needs too many chances to score.
Walcott- Great finisher, but rubbish overall play. No football brain

Defoe- Ok finisher, overall play not great but much better than Walcott's. Always been streaky.
Adebayor- Poor finisher like Giroud, unplayable at times, like a pinball machine in some games in the sense that the ball just bounces off him.

So not a great deal of difference in that department. If our strikers can regain some good form, I'm confident we can finish above them. However, I fear them for the same simply because they always finish in the top 4 and have achieved that goal in recent seasons because they are Arsenal, just like Man United are leading the league because they are Man United despite having an inferior squad compared to past Fergie teams.
 
NLD at WHL is going to be massive, even moreso with the possibility of a trip to Anfield the following weekend. Big 8 days in our season
 
I think Dempsey is currently a better striker than either Defoe or Ade, so surely he should be in any striker comparison.

I rate Walcott as the best striker out of all the strikers in both clubs currently, but I love Clint so much he'd always be in my team.
 
Dempsey started as a CF 5 times in the league last season for Fulham and scored 5 goals.
Exactly, why people don't see he can be and is a striker I've no idea.

Of course sometimes he plays deep etc, but blimey ADe plays all over the place. And Walcott was stuck back out on the wing by Wenger most of the game v Chelsea.

Defoe and Giroud are out and out strikers true. But strikers come in many guises. Rooney being a typical example.
 
The thing I f@cking (don't) hate about Arsenal, every season they play to finish in top 4 nothing else. They have strengthened the 2 manchester clubs knowing full well they are not interested in competing with them. They have no chance in the champions league yet every season they strive to get in the top 4 to make sure they bring in the cash. They are truly an example of football dissapearing up its arse. Held up as a bastion of a "properly" run football club but the thing is I always thought football was about winning or trying to win not just swelling your bank balance season after season. They will probably get there again yet clubs like us and Everton who have shown some ambition will probably lose out. They make me sick in many ways more than Chelsea
 
We all knew they would stuff West Ham tonight. Even if they had lost tonight, I wouldn't be celebrating. We will be battling with them for 4th until the last day of the season.

At the very least, this result might convince Wenger that they don't need a striker which is fine by me. They've been linked with David Villa.
 
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The thing I f@cking (don't) hate about Arsenal, every season they play to finish in top 4 nothing else. They have strengthened the 2 manchester clubs knowing full well they are not interested in competing with them. They have no chance in the champions league yet every season they strive to get in the top 4 to make sure they bring in the cash. They are truly an example of football dissapearing up its arse. Held up as a bastion of a "properly" run football club but the thing is I always thought football was about winning or trying to win not just swelling your bank balance season after season. They will probably get there again yet clubs like us and Everton who have shown some ambition will probably lose out. They make me sick in many ways more than Chelsea

That's a good point and makes sense as to why they seemingly didn't give a brick about RVP going to Man U.
 
We all knew they would stuff West Ham tonight. Even if they had lost tonight, I wouldn't be celebrating. We will be battling with them for 4th until the last day of the season.

At the very least, this result might convince Wenger that they don't need a striker which is fine by me. They've been linked with David Villa.

I agree. Would have been great if they dropped points, but them beating West Ham at home really isn't much of a shock. Especially when West Ham didn't have a great day (going by the highlights alone).

They have been good in patches earlier this season too, their inconsistency is their main problem. One good game doesn't change that.

It will most likely be close though, I'm not expecting the fight for a top 4 finish to be done before the last week(s) of the season.
 
Gooners have been very quiet on my FB for a while, bar the odd 'Wenger Out', 'Sack the board' etc.

Tonight they've come out in their droves, hailing it the best performance of the season, as good as the 'Invincibles' etc. One of my mates even questioned why everyone is talking about Hazard after such a display at the Scumirates.
 
They have a lot of firepower moreso than we do and certain matches when it falls into place they can thrash teams. Goal difference is very likely to be in their favour and the run-in looks like it will be very tight. I hope we get another forward in to cement goals and wins as i'm quite worried by our poor finishing.
 
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