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The "DM" thread

For me he's just a more skillful Vinnie Jones. Don't rate him. Has to make a lot of really stupid challenges, because he doesn't read the game well enough, and isn't mobile enough. A clear no go for me, and it would surprise me if he was even on Ange's radar.
I don't think he'll be on our radar. Cost and age partly, but mostly his limitations on the ball. Defensively, as a destroyer, he's fantastic. If we sign a DM it will almost certainly be one that's worse than him defensively overall.
 
Not seen him play but everyone raves about Gray, surely gettable now they didn't get promoted.
 
Not seen him play but everyone raves about Gray, surely gettable now they didn't get promoted.
I think he has everything required to become superb and would love us to get him but he isn't anything like an instant answer. In 3 years or so he could get to the level that Declan Rice is now operating at but there is still at lot of development to do before he gets there.
 
I think he has everything required to become superb and would love us to get him but he isn't anything like an instant answer. In 3 years or so he could get to the level that Declan Rice is now operating at but there is still at lot of development to do before he gets there.
The guy who is there now is Wharton
But that’s a £60m plus deal
The guys top drawer
Plays style wise like Modric. Quick one touch pass and move
 
I think romero would relish a dm role with vdv and dragusin behind him
Don't quite get that.

He does have the attributes to play there, that I agree with. But it would be an unfamiliar and new role for him. Defensively, positionally. But also on the ball. He has the quality to do that, but would probably need time to adapt and learn.

Meanwhile he's imo a world class CB, vital to how we play. Getting linked to Real Madrid so who knows how long we will have him here for. Why spend the time to adjust and learn, why weaken the centre back position for the potential of improving the DM role.

I also think our buildup play would suffer from not having him at the back. Probably he also thinks of himself as a CB, I think he relishes playing there and wants to prove himself as one of the best in the world there. Not sure learning a new role is what he'd want.
 
I think romero would relish a dm role with vdv and dragusin behind him
There is quite a big difference between a CB who is good on the ball playing it forwards and a deep lying midfielder who has to play in all directions. I don't know if Romero suits playing DM as much as you think tbh.
 
I think romero would relish a dm role with vdv and dragusin behind him

Without doubt in my opinion our weakest part of the team is a DM, i have said elswhere that our priortys this summer are a CF and a DM. If we are unable to bring a good DM in this summer i would have no problem with seeing Romero given a run out there as i think he will be good at it.
 
Without doubt in my opinion our weakest part of the team is a DM, i have said elswhere that our priortys this summer are a CF and a DM. If we are unable to bring a good DM in this summer i would have no problem with seeing Romero given a run out there as i think he will be good at it.

Then we'd have to bring in at least another cb. Unless philips and dorington get moved into the first squad.
 
I have to say I feel this Romero to DM chat is a little misguided; to excel in this role, you have to be good at receiving the ball with your back to goal, being good on the half turn, and I think his strengths on the ball are more with the pitch ahead of him and moving vertically.
 
Then we'd have to bring in at least another cb. Unless philips and dorington get moved into the first squad.

Well as i said i hope we bring in a DM but if we are unable to do so for the kick off then rather then carry on without a strong performer in there i would give him a run there as i feel he is a better option then what we have at the moment. I guess we will have to wait and see.
 
Well as i said i hope we bring in a DM but if we are unable to do so for the kick off then rather then carry on without a strong performer in there i would give him a run there as i feel he is a better option then what we have at the moment. I guess we will have to wait and see.

I quoted you but it was probably more aimed at metalgear. If we move romero to dm we'd still need a cb. So just swapping one problem for another. Unless we use the kids. But then we have hall who (i think) can play dm.

It's a decision forthe coaches.
 
I quoted you but it was probably more aimed at metalgear. If we move romero to dm we'd still need a cb. So just swapping one problem for another. Unless we use the kids. But then we have hall who (i think) can play dm.

It's a decision forthe coaches.
It would also solve a problem: a talented player being left on the bench and wanting to leave.

We want our best players starting games.
 
I have to say I feel this Romero to DM chat is a little misguided; to excel in this role, you have to be good at receiving the ball with your back to goal, being good on the half turn, and I think his strengths on the ball are more with the pitch ahead of him and moving vertically.
I think he has the skill technically to do that. But it's more about the consistency in decision making and awareness that I think typically comes with time and experience in a role.
Well as i said i hope we bring in a DM but if we are unable to do so for the kick off then rather then carry on without a strong performer in there i would give him a run there as i feel he is a better option then what we have at the moment. I guess we will have to wait and see.
He would have to be given a run there for it to make sense. Time to adjust and adapt. Meanwhile we're losing a top level CB that's key to how we build up. For the potential that he may turn out to be close to as good at DM as he is at CB. Best case we're then left with a CB problem to fix, but we would have to fix that (sign another CB) before we know if a Romero at DM experiment pays off.

Would rather give that run to Bentancur who equally could be really good in that role if he can adjust and settle in to it. Or see if Bissouma can find consistency of performances as he did at the start of last season. Or sign someone with the potential to become that player and give him time to settle in and develop.
 
I thought we should have used him there last season, but we should be looking to get in a top DM to compete for that spot.
 
I quoted you but it was probably more aimed at metalgear. If we move romero to dm we'd still need a cb. So just swapping one problem for another. Unless we use the kids. But then we have hall who (i think) can play dm.

It's a decision forthe coaches.

I've not seen anything in Hall that suggests he'll make a DM, he reminds me of Ardiles but with more of a goal threat. He glides over the pitch when on song. Abbott is the one in the development team who looks like he could fit the bill.
 
doesn't have to switch romero there permanently. we could do with some more in game options - when we're leading 2-0 and want players to see out a game. vdv dragusin and romero might help us as we've seen with just vdv and romero - we still leak goals plenty
I quoted you but it was probably more aimed at metalgear. If we move romero to dm we'd still need a cb. So just swapping one problem for another. Unless we use the kids. But then we have hall who (i think) can play dm.

It's a decision forthe coaches.
 
doesn't have to switch romero there permanently. we could do with some more in game options - when we're leading 2-0 and want players to see out a game. vdv dragusin and romero might help us as we've seen with just vdv and romero - we still leak goals plenty

If you're winning a game not sure you'd want to disrupt the defencive pairing.
 
I think he has the skill technically to do that. But it's more about the consistency in decision making and awareness that I think typically comes with time and experience in a role.

He would have to be given a run there for it to make sense. Time to adjust and adapt. Meanwhile we're losing a top level CB that's key to how we build up. For the potential that he may turn out to be close to as good at DM as he is at CB. Best case we're then left with a CB problem to fix, but we would have to fix that (sign another CB) before we know if a Romero at DM experiment pays off.

Would rather give that run to Bentancur who equally could be really good in that role if he can adjust and settle in to it. Or see if Bissouma can find consistency of performances as he did at the start of last season. Or sign someone with the potential to become that player and give him time to settle in and develop.

You make some good points and i do not neccsary disagree with you, however i have said i would hope/pray we bring a DM in so Romero would only play there if we failed to do so but again i believe he would be better then Biss and i would rather we gave Bentancur a run of games further up the field as a M/F player.

I guess that Ange probably know more about what will happen so we shall have to wait and see. :)
 
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