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Summer transfer thread, AvB window wrap up pg 1527

Which player would you like to see take over from Luka Modric?

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DHSF said:
True but if you lose the other one then youre pretty fudged (or not rather haha)
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Sad-face.
 
Redknapp was in charge for 7 transfer windows.

Counting VdV as a forward we brought in a total of 5 strikers/forwards in those 7 windows. Defoe, Keane, Crouch, VdV and Adebayor on loan. I'm ignoring Saha as it was obviously a stop gap.

Some of you are going on as if Levy is a money hoarder and our poor managers have had to fashion strikers out of clay on a turntable.
 
indianspur said:
its not about having faith anymore. AVB and the squad are busting a gut to be ready for the new season, double sessions, new tactics etc and all without strikers to fit into how AVB wants to play. 2 weeks to go and time is running out to bed in a new striker, plus we are having to fcuk around with Bale by playing him up front which also interferes with his role in AVB's way of playing, so he is losing time on the pitch in trying to adjust

as a fan it only matters because we want to see the team do well, but for AVB it his job and he is having to do it without some essential tools. If i was him id be privately very pi$$ed off
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You don't think he knew the situation when he walked in?
You also don't think he wants to be 100% sure that when we spend the money, we spend it on a class player but also a team player?
Look, I personally love Ade and think he'd be great, but you can be sure to 20 or whatever million it would cost to get him (wages included) are a factor as much as the desire the player has to play for us! I believed he loved it here, and I believed that the money would compromise, but I was always aware that it was not a slam dunk and frankly, I think AVB might be one of the people wondering whether the money should go on him versus a.n.other.

The biggest problem in this entire transfer equation has been Modric. Levy always set a price, the price was firm, there were compromises to be had but suddenly Madrid felt they were the only game in town and refuse to pay more than 27 mill, thinking it would blackmail Levy into selling. He won't, not for that, and good for him. But of course it's a problem for AVB as THIS is where we could get hurt; if Madrid schtump up the money in two weeks time, and we then get Moutinho in on deadline day, THAT would be disruptive...yeah, I'm sure AVB is frustrated, but at situations more than direct circumstances?
 
I think we will definitely sign a striker, and it will probably be Ade.

All this 'Well, we are now going to look at other options' is just fluff to make someone blink first. Either City will decide to pay the fee, Ade will decide to give up some of the fee, or Spurs will decide to pay a little bit more of the fee. There's a month left, no way is the deal over already.

So many clubs use that tactic of saying they are now looking elsewhere. I mean I'm sure we did it about Ade last year when we were negotiating for him! I think we may go into the season with Ade, Defoe and Kane, or maybe we sell Defoe and bring in someone else. But I think Kane is looking good for 3rd choice, with hopefully a loan for Soulman.

The dream would be Ade, Lewandowski and Kane as back up. And that's not beyond the realms of possibility that it could happen. We just need to make a firm bid in time for Dortmund to accept. We have to be serious about it. None of the tactics we used when bidding 500k for Phil Neville which was never going to work. We need to be serious.

And if we don't get anyone else, it will be Levy's fault. Simple as that.
 
DHSF said:
Well Harry didnt buy a striker yet people blamed him... no? just saying.
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Harry brought Crouch, Keane, Defoe, VDV then Adebayor and Saha on loan. Harry brought plenty of strikers.

IMO the issues with Harry and Levy were a matter of differing policies. We all know what Levy looks for, we all know what Harry looks for = chalk and cheese.

I do honestly believe if you were the manager and you presented Levy with viable targets that would be buyable, hold potential to improve (and hold/increase their value) and would improve the side then he would back you in that 100%.

Of course if you ask him to buy a 30 year old with a bum knee on a 4 year 90k a week contract he might not be so supportive.

As yet, given that the window still has just under a month to run (and yes, I appreciate prior to Saudi Sportswashing Machine would be preferable) we cant really judge whether or not Levy has backed AVB at all. The window isnt shut, there is plenty of time for plenty of moves to happen.

The club made some early moves in Bale, Vertonghen and Sigurdsson. AVB then announced we would do nothing until he had had the chance to assess the squad on the USA tour (and guess what, so far he is right!) and then we would go back into the market after wards. Which is any time from now.

How about a little "wait and see" before getting to excited?
 
braineclipse said:
Redknapp was in charge for 7 transfer windows.

Counting VdV as a forward we brought in a total of 5 strikers/forwards in those 7 windows. Defoe, Keane, Crouch, VdV and Adebayor on loan. I'm ignoring Saha as it was obviously a stop gap.

Some of you are going on as if Levy is a money hoarder and our poor managers have had to fashion strikers out of clay on a turntable.
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That's the problem, I think. Defoe and Keane were both rather obviously buys made to save us from relegation, and Crouch was probably the one player Redknapp demanded above all. All three were bought in 2009. Since then, we've finished fourth twice and qualified for the Champions League once, reaching the quarter-final. In that time, ignoring Saha, our only permanent forward acquisition has been VdV. Well, Coulibaly too, but he's one for the future. So I can see why people are upset about our apparent lack of spending. I don't agree with them, however.
 
DHSF said:
I know we have moved on but people blamed Harry in the past for not addressing the striker issue... we still havent... and harry has gone... just sayin
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I've already said this numerous times - last chance salon time for Levy - you can't have AVB talking about challenging for the title and speaking about continous squad improvement while failing to replace Berbatov for 8-9 windows in a row. Shockorama, my friend

Yes, he does do great things for this club but certain aspects have been on the agenda for eons yet little seems to have been addressed
 
nayimfromthehalfwayline said:
Harry brought Crouch, Keane, Defoe, VDV then Adebayor and Saha on loan. Harry brought plenty of strikers.

IMO the issues with Harry and Levy were a matter of differing policies. We all know what Levy looks for, we all know what Harry looks for = chalk and cheese.

I do honestly believe if you were the manager and you presented Levy with viable targets that would be buyable, hold potential to improve (and hold/increase their value) and would improve the side then he would back you in that 100%.

Of course if you ask him to buy a 30 year old with a bum knee on a 4 year 90k a week contract he might not be so supportive.

As yet, given that the window still has just under a month to run (and yes, I appreciate prior to Saudi Sportswashing Machine would be preferable) we cant really judge whether or not Levy has backed AVB at all. The window isnt shut, there is plenty of time for plenty of moves to happen.

The club made some early moves in Bale, Vertonghen and Sigurdsson. AVB then announced we would do nothing until he had had the chance to assess the squad on the USA tour (and guess what, so far he is right!) and then we would go back into the market after wards. Which is any time from now.

How about a little "wait and see" before getting to excited?
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How can AVB assess strikers WHEN we have NONE? its a gap - you cant assess a gap. You can assess weaker players fine but not gaps.

Yeah granted we have purchased strikers but the first three was obviously to save us from even the mere threat of relegation and to give us a start. We as a squad and our aspirations have now changed into competing with the big boys and that means better players. The question is does Levy et al have the hunger to allow us to fulfill those aspirations buy bringing in better strikers.

At the moment we have ONE and even that is a striker who people wanted to sell at the start of the window. Four years ago is four years ago, we dont have ONE or TWO NOW.

I did also say i will wait till August 17. Although I am unsure why we should be waiting when we should have been going at it from the get go. Ok granted the Euros may have played a part in holding up the window so ill give benefit of the doubt.
 
ArcspacE said:
Tell - what would you say on the 1st of Septmeber (nevermind St James Park in 2 weeks time) if we close the window with Defoe and Kane?

Is it ok to be worried then? Was it ok to worry for 8-9 windows already?
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We won't end the window with only Defoe and Kane. 100% guarenteed.
 
DHSF said:
How can AVB assess strikers WHEN we have NONE? its a gap - you cant assess a gap. You can assess weaker players fine but not gaps.

Yeah granted we have purchased strikers but the first three was obviously to save us from even the mere threat of relegation and to give us a start. We as a squad and our aspirations have now changed into competing with the big boys and that means better players. The question is does Levy et al have the hunger to allow us to fulfill those aspirations buy bringing in better strikers.

At the moment we have ONE and even that is a striker who people wanted to sell at the start of the window. Four years ago is four years ago, we dont have ONE or TWO NOW.

I did also say i will wait till August 17. Although I am unsure why we should be waiting when we should have been going at it from the get go. Ok granted the Euros may have played a part in holding up the window so ill give benefit of the doubt.
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The strikers Harry got were good enough to see us 4th, 5th, 4th with a CL QF thrown in. Its not like he had nothing to work with is it? And given the success while we all thought we needed more it wasnt like we couldnt cope either.

I would imagine what striker (or type of striker) we need will be dependant on the composition of the team. Until AVB is clear on how exactly we are going to set up how can he know what sort of striker is required?

It could be that he discovered his passing/pressing/disciplined set up wouldnt stick with the current crop so he would need a striker able to effect play.

It could be that his set up works perfectly and so he is looking for more of a pure finisher.

Until he knows what he has as a team I would guess its not such an easy decision.
 
Perhaps more than any other position (As Arsenal know) the striker is often the difference between a top four/five position and something more mediocre. Over the last few seasons the overall quality of our team has compensated for our lack of an out and out goal scorer.

I would be very worried going into a new season, playing an unfamiliar style of football, without improving our strikeforce. We need proven Premiership goal scorers really while we transition to a high pressing style, if that is what AVB is planning. We could probably get Carroll and Berbatov relatively cheaply -both of whom can score in the Premiership. people may laugh, and they are not the players I would ideally want, but they are realistic targets, who would do very well as a stopgap until we can attract/sign better strikers.

I'm just as worried about the lack of pace at the back. Both Vertonghen and Dawson are slowish and will get exposed if we insist on playing a high line. We could ship a lot of goals, even against teams we should comfortably beat, if they have quick forwards.
 
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