Sandro Tonali

[DubaiSpur]

The club will sell for between 6-8x revenue. The only way to increase revenue at this point is improving the performance on the pitch. Regular Champions League Football, attracting more marquee commercial deals.

Yes, that definitely plays a part imo. But even if they sold now they'd make 50 to 100 times their initial investment. Remember, they bought in for something like 25m.

Beyond that you're in diminishing returns territory where yes, you could double your returns if we get back to where we were under Poch - a club worth 3 or 4 bn. But the investment you'd need to put in would reduce your return on it.

To me, there has to be a legacy aspect here - as I've said before, Viv and Charles are in their mid-60s and are generally not known in the wider world beyond being Joe Lewis's kids. Being very public owners of Spurs offers them more of a platform and a way to build their legacy than most other things at this stage, imo.

 

[ricky2tricky4city]

I think it has to be financially more than that
The owners have to be planning on putting more cash in
Next season we’re turning over around £450m I think (very quick guess)
But these outlays are huge will massive debts still from previous windows

I'd expect quite a few out goings too, I mean we just got 50 mill for Vuskovic.

Still Think it'll end up around £100-120m net by the end of the window....nothing crazy

 

[Gazza]

I don't see how we can afford this, has to be something dodgy going on

Beyoncé has been chained to the cheese room

 

[robp135]

Yes, that definitely plays a part imo. But even if they sold now they'd make 50 to 100 times their initial investment. Remember, they bought in for something like 25m.

Beyond that you're in diminishing returns territory where yes, you could double your returns if we get back to where we were under Poch - a club worth 3 or 4 bn. But the investment you'd need to put in would reduce your return on it.

To me, there has to be a legacy aspect here - as I've said before, Viv and Charles are in their mid-60s and are generally not known in the wider world beyond being Joe Lewis's kids. Being very public owners of Spurs offers them more of a platform and a way to build their legacy than most other things at this stage, imo.

I doubt it personally. L

ewis family has also been receiving loans based on the value of the club for 25 years which has then been reinvested in to other the rest of their business. All tax free as well. They have made billions from owning us.

 

[robp135]

I think it has to be financially more than that
The owners have to be planning on putting more cash in
Next season we’re turning over around £450m I think (very quick guess)
But these outlays are huge will massive debts still from previous windows

We made £550M the last season we were not in Europe.

The debts we have are all manageable. £650M is stadium debt. £200M transfer debt.

Imagine you made £550k a year and your you owed £650k on your house and had 2 cars worth £200k in the driveway. Your not one bit worried.

 

[ricky2tricky4city]

My guess is, Viv Lewis hating Levy and deciding she wants a legacy that isn't 'being Joe Lewis's kid'.

If she pulls off a Spurs revival, she'll be remembered as the owner that brought us what Joe couldn't. Guessing that might at least partly explain this largesse.

Yeah I'd hate Levy for what he'd done for my trust fund.

Don't get ahead of yourself with joining the dots.

 

[DubaiSpur]

Yeah I'd hate Levy for what he'd done for my trust fund.

Don't get ahead of yourself with joining the dots.

It's not exactly a secret that Viv Lewis disliked Levy - that's been the chatter within the club for a while, and enough so that even Ally Gold picked up on it.

If you were a billionaire's kid and wanted to spend your trust fund on whatever you wanted, but were blocked by an over-officious accounts manager who prioritized prudence over your wishes, I'd wager you'd be upset too. Especially since you're no longer a kid - you're in your mid-60s and probably want a legacy of some sort.

All speculation of course, but it's my guess and I'm sticking to it.

 

[Baleforce]

It's not exactly a secret that Viv Lewis disliked Levy - that's been the chatter within the club for a while, and enough so that even Ally Gold picked up on it.

If you were a billionaire's kid and wanted to spend your trust fund on whatever you wanted, but were blocked by an over-officious accounts manager who prioritized prudence over your wishes, I'd wager you'd be upset too. Especially since you're no longer a kid - you're in your mid-60s and probably want a legacy of some sort.

All speculation of course, but it's my guess and I'm sticking to it.

No one in their right mind would spend it on a football club though, you’d spend it on cars, drugs, sex.

 

[SpurMeUp]

Is this the right club? Maybe I’m in the wrong place?



Would be like us to rebuild the defence and midfield and negate sorting the attack. Sorry ran out of cash!

Tbf I’ve been upset about our midfield since Poch days. We’ve never addressed it after Ndombele shambles. So it’s great to see the heart of the side getting serious investment. But someone has to bang the goals in. And we were woeful int he final third last season without so many first and second choice attackers. Will they come back or will we sign quality in attack too?

 

[ricky2tricky4city]

It's not exactly a secret that Viv Lewis disliked Levy - that's been the chatter within the club for a while, and enough so that even Ally Gold picked up on it.

If you were a billionaire's kid and wanted to spend your trust fund on whatever you wanted, but were blocked by an over-officious accounts manager who prioritized prudence over your wishes, I'd wager you'd be upset too. Especially since you're no longer a kid - you're in your mid-60s and probably want a legacy of some sort.

All speculation of course, but it's my guess and I'm sticking to it.

I think you're misguided about who was 'in the way'

It was her dad that was the problem.

He called the shots financially. DL ran it within that remit.

And I don't even think that's speculation

 

[Baleforce]

Is this the right club? Maybe I’m in the wrong place?



Would be like us to rebuild the defence and midfield and negate sorting the attack. Sorry ran out of cash!

Tbf I’ve been upset about our midfield since Poch days. We’ve never addressed it after Ndombele shambles. So it’s great to see the heart of the side getting serious investment. But someone has to bang the goals in. And we were woeful int he final third last season without so many first and second choice attackers. Will they come back or will we sign quality in attack too?

get the defense right and you don't need an attack

 

[robp135]

I don't see how we can afford this, has to be something dodgy going on

Nothing dodgy at all. This is how how the other "top 6" clubs operate. Their revenues are only above ours because of on pitch success.

 

[Bishop]

I think you're misguided about who was 'in the way'

It was her dad that was the problem.

He called the shots financially. DL ran it within that remit.

And I don't even think that's speculation

He had financial parameters, how he hit those parameters was up to him. Spreading the funds across 5x players and not concentrating it on 1 or 2 was his choice not Lewis.

As always how he used our funds and spent the money is the problem not the amount.

 

[robp135]

It's not exactly a secret that Viv Lewis disliked Levy - that's been the chatter within the club for a while, and enough so that even Ally Gold picked up on it.

If you were a billionaire's kid and wanted to spend your trust fund on whatever you wanted, but were blocked by an over-officious accounts manager who prioritized prudence over your wishes, I'd wager you'd be upset too. Especially since you're no longer a kid - you're in your mid-60s and probably want a legacy of some sort.

All speculation of course, but it's my guess and I'm sticking to it.

I think you're misguided about who was 'in the way'

It was her dad that was the problem.

He called the shots financially. DL ran it within that remit.

And I don't even think that's speculation

From what I understand Levy was viewed like another son by Joe and often received more attention than the children which of course will cause some resentment.

 

[SpurMeUp]

We made £550M the last season we were not in Europe.

The debts we have are all manageable. £650M is stadium debt. £200M transfer debt.

Imagine you made £550k a year and your you owed £650k on your house and had 2 cars worth £200k in the driveway. Your not one bit worried.

‘made’ or turned over? I doubt we have cleared profits anywhere near that.

 

[Baleforce]

He had financial parameters, how he hit those parameters was up to him. Spreading the funds across 5x players and not concentrating it on 1 or 2 was his choice not Lewis.

As always how he used our funds and spent the money is the problem not the amount.

this is extreme though, no way we can afford this level of spending, it's massively irresponsible

 

[yiddo37]

Beyoncé has been chained to the cheese room

Chained to J Zees bedroom more like

 

[glasgowspur]

Still got his mate Simon Jordan on the radio making up stories about how we can't spend too much on wages due to terms in the stadium loans.

A deal like that is such a bad look there's no way I can believe levy would be asking for the details to be put out there.
Not that I actually believe Jordan on this.

 

[K.D.D.D.D.Soc]

get the defense right and you don't need an attack

You'd get relegated with 38 points with your 0-0 results

 

[Baleforce]

You'd get relegated with 38 points with your 0-0 results

no, you'd defend so well the opposition score own goals, and you'd win every game 1-0, which was the original aim of football, the game finished as soon as one team scored