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Roberto Soldado

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Would anyone mind ripping the Soldado interview from the OS and putting it on Daily Motion or something? I subscribed to that cursed bloody brick storm of a service Spurs TV for a month, yet it won't allow me to see the interview with him, as it's for "One Hotspur and E-Hotspur Members only". What a load of gonads.

Would much appreciate it! :)
 
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http://espnfc.com/blog/_/name/tacticsandanalysis/id/1657?cc=5739

Roberto Soldado perfectly anchors AVB's 'vertical' football

by Michael Cox


Amongst the raft of intelligent, geeky and academic young football coaches, Andre Villas-Boas probably epitomises the genre more than most. He was never a professional footballer, he was an international coach by the age of 21, he made his name as a video analyst under Jose Mourinho, and admits to being fascinating by the video game "Football Manager" in his younger days.

A particular theme amongst these coaches is their innovative -- or pretentious, if you prefer -- use of language. Brendan Rodgers speaks in a particularly odd manner, using unconventional phrases that sometimes appear clumsy and forced -- he once described Suso as playing in 'that false winger, that seven-and-a-half role.' But Villas-Boas appears more authoritative with his unusual phrases. He dislikes opponents who play with a 'low block,' wants his players to 'provoke' the opposition with the ball, demands quick 'circulation' and is wary of the opposition 'transition.' Many of the phrases are being used increasingly widely.

Villas-Boas' favourite phrase, however, is 'vertical' -- by which he means up the pitch, toward the opposition goal. He demands his teams play quick, purposeful attacking football -- and whereas Rodgers focuses upon possession, Villas-Boas wants 'vertical penetration.'

His Porto side -- which remains a better representation of his favoured footballing style than his efforts with Chelsea or Tottenham thus far -- was a perfect example. Porto had talented midfielders, but they didn't hold onto possession for the sake of it -- they attempted to transfer the ball into the final third as quickly as possible. Porto were relentless, powerful and determined, consistently launching wave after wave of direct, immediate attacks. Opponents were overblown by their sheer force, rather than cut open slowly by their subtlety.

The key goal of the season, the Europa League final winner against Braga, was a great example. Fredy Guarin won possession 10 yards inside his own half, drove forward down the right, checked back -- and then delivered a perfect ball that was half-cross, half-lofted through-ball, perfectly onto the head of Radamel Falcao. It summed up Villas-Boas' style of football -- Porto attacked directly, and hit the front man immediately.

At Spurs, Villas-Boas has lacked a reliable frontman. Jermain Defoe performed well last autumn but his form quickly dripped, while Emmanuel Adebayor provided sporadic brilliance but too much lethargy for a Villas-Boas side.

Now, the Portuguese coach has turned to Roberto Soldado. It was an obvious choice -- with 24 league goals last season, the Spanish striker was amongst the top 10 goalscorers from Europe's major five leagues last season. Amongst the untouchables -- Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Robin van Persie -- and those already on the move, like Edinson Cavani, Falcao and Alvaro Negredo, only Leverkusen's Stefan Kiessling and Dortmund's Robert Lewandowski could compete with Soldado in terms of goalscoring.

However, few others are so perfectly suited for this type of 'vertical' football Villas-Boas desires. Soldado is a slightly unusual footballer -- a short, mobile, technical poacher, and arguably the type of striker who had supposedly been rendered obsolete, at least in 4-3-3 systems.

The one thing Soldado excels at, however, is volleying. The number of volleys he scores -- and the sheer technical audacity of them -- is quite remarkable. The perfect goal to sum up Soldado would be his opener at the Mestalla against Atletico Madrid last season. Running onto a long, accurate ball from right-sided centre-back Ulrich Rami, Soldado managed to anticipate the pass before one centre-back, then reached the ball a fraction ahead of the other centre-back, taking the volley at a necessary height to prevent the challenge halting the move. It was, put simply, a stupendous strike.

It remains to be seen whether Soldado can replicate that goal -- although you can bet he'll manage at least one stunning volley this season -- but the point is a much wider one. This is a forward expert at controlling and despatching direct forward passes, and if Villas-Boas wants a lone centre-forward capable of playing in this type of system, Soldado is the man.

He shares Falcao's love of finishing moves with one touch, slamming the ball home before the defence have managed to position themselves. He's also a natural at sprinting in behind opposition defences for weighted through-balls, possessing an immediate burst of pace, rather than searing outright speed. Maybe the two qualities originate from the same root causes -- a great sense of anticipation, and an ability to time runs perfectly.

Soldado says he likes to "play on the limit of the opposition defensive line," and when quizzed about his favourite type of goal, the Spanish international answers as instantly as he finishes. "The ones with the first touch,” he said. "That says a lot about my teammates."

Which implies he needs accurate, reliable service to play his favoured game, and there's a question mark about who will provide the passes at White Hart Lane. Tom Huddlestone is capable of those balls but seems unlikely to be a regular. Meanwhile, Sandro's passes are naturally conservative, Dembele distributes the ball calmly from side to side, while Paulinho's verticality is more about his off-the-ball running than his passing. On paper it's a perfect midfield trio in a 4-3-3 but lacks a genuine through-ball specialist.

Talk about a Spurs striker based around 'vertical football' three years ago, and most would assume you were talking about Harry Redknapp's love of Peter Crouch. But the manager has changed, the language has changed and the striker has changed -- next, Spurs need their midfield passing to change, too.
 
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nice article that, not sure who's going to be providing the balls for which Soldado can apply his one touch finishing to though (as the article asks)

i still have a nagging suspicion that Paulhino and Dembele are going to be used separately rather than together for all but the toughest games meaning both Sandro and a more creative player will be picked alongside whoever gets the nod. Carroll would be a possibility if he were a little more experienced, certainly looks a good passer of the ball and can move it forward quickly.
 
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I think it'll be:

Paulinho/Dembele - Holtby/Siggy/Carroll
Sandro​
 
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http://espnfc.com/blog/_/name/tacticsandanalysis/id/1657?cc=5739

Roberto Soldado perfectly anchors AVB's 'vertical' football

by Michael Cox


Amongst the raft of intelligent, geeky and academic young football coaches, Andre Villas-Boas probably epitomises the genre more than most. He was never a professional footballer, he was an international coach by the age of 21, he made his name as a video analyst under Jose Mourinho, and admits to being fascinating by the video game "Football Manager" in his younger days.

A particular theme amongst these coaches is their innovative -- or pretentious, if you prefer -- use of language. Brendan Rodgers speaks in a particularly odd manner, using unconventional phrases that sometimes appear clumsy and forced -- he once described Suso as playing in 'that false winger, that seven-and-a-half role.' But Villas-Boas appears more authoritative with his unusual phrases. He dislikes opponents who play with a 'low block,' wants his players to 'provoke' the opposition with the ball, demands quick 'circulation' and is wary of the opposition 'transition.' Many of the phrases are being used increasingly widely.

Villas-Boas' favourite phrase, however, is 'vertical' -- by which he means up the pitch, toward the opposition goal. He demands his teams play quick, purposeful attacking football -- and whereas Rodgers focuses upon possession, Villas-Boas wants 'vertical penetration.'

His Porto side -- which remains a better representation of his favoured footballing style than his efforts with Chelsea or Tottenham thus far -- was a perfect example. Porto had talented midfielders, but they didn't hold onto possession for the sake of it -- they attempted to transfer the ball into the final third as quickly as possible. Porto were relentless, powerful and determined, consistently launching wave after wave of direct, immediate attacks. Opponents were overblown by their sheer force, rather than cut open slowly by their subtlety.

The key goal of the season, the Europa League final winner against Braga, was a great example. Fredy Guarin won possession 10 yards inside his own half, drove forward down the right, checked back -- and then delivered a perfect ball that was half-cross, half-lofted through-ball, perfectly onto the head of Radamel Falcao. It summed up Villas-Boas' style of football -- Porto attacked directly, and hit the front man immediately.

At Spurs, Villas-Boas has lacked a reliable frontman. Jermain Defoe performed well last autumn but his form quickly dripped, while Emmanuel Adebayor provided sporadic brilliance but too much lethargy for a Villas-Boas side.

Now, the Portuguese coach has turned to Roberto Soldado. It was an obvious choice -- with 24 league goals last season, the Spanish striker was amongst the top 10 goalscorers from Europe's major five leagues last season. Amongst the untouchables -- Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Robin van Persie -- and those already on the move, like Edinson Cavani, Falcao and Alvaro Negredo, only Leverkusen's Stefan Kiessling and Dortmund's Robert Lewandowski could compete with Soldado in terms of goalscoring.

However, few others are so perfectly suited for this type of 'vertical' football Villas-Boas desires. Soldado is a slightly unusual footballer -- a short, mobile, technical poacher, and arguably the type of striker who had supposedly been rendered obsolete, at least in 4-3-3 systems.

The one thing Soldado excels at, however, is volleying. The number of volleys he scores -- and the sheer technical audacity of them -- is quite remarkable. The perfect goal to sum up Soldado would be his opener at the Mestalla against Atletico Madrid last season. Running onto a long, accurate ball from right-sided centre-back Ulrich Rami, Soldado managed to anticipate the pass before one centre-back, then reached the ball a fraction ahead of the other centre-back, taking the volley at a necessary height to prevent the challenge halting the move. It was, put simply, a stupendous strike.

It remains to be seen whether Soldado can replicate that goal -- although you can bet he'll manage at least one stunning volley this season -- but the point is a much wider one. This is a forward expert at controlling and despatching direct forward passes, and if Villas-Boas wants a lone centre-forward capable of playing in this type of system, Soldado is the man.

He shares Falcao's love of finishing moves with one touch, slamming the ball home before the defence have managed to position themselves. He's also a natural at sprinting in behind opposition defences for weighted through-balls, possessing an immediate burst of pace, rather than searing outright speed. Maybe the two qualities originate from the same root causes -- a great sense of anticipation, and an ability to time runs perfectly.

Soldado says he likes to "play on the limit of the opposition defensive line," and when quizzed about his favourite type of goal, the Spanish international answers as instantly as he finishes. "The ones with the first touch,” he said. "That says a lot about my teammates."

Which implies he needs accurate, reliable service to play his favoured game, and there's a question mark about who will provide the passes at White Hart Lane. Tom Huddlestone is capable of those balls but seems unlikely to be a regular. Meanwhile, Sandro's passes are naturally conservative, Dembele distributes the ball calmly from side to side, while Paulinho's verticality is more about his off-the-ball running than his passing. On paper it's a perfect midfield trio in a 4-3-3 but lacks a genuine through-ball specialist.

Talk about a Spurs striker based around 'vertical football' three years ago, and most would assume you were talking about Harry Redknapp's love of Peter Crouch. But the manager has changed, the language has changed and the striker has changed -- next, Spurs need their midfield passing to change, too.

Thanks for posting that article. Not sure if it is bollox or a revelation!

But it has excited me about Soldado.
 
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I think it'll be:

Paulinho/Dembele - Holtby/Siggy/Carroll
Sandro​


possibly: /Parker for another season as well whilst we look for a replacement understudy for Sandro over the coming year but that's basically how i see it panning out also
 
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So in effect, other than add top quality depth, we've not improved the quality of the first team central midfield.

I can understand the rationale behind people's thinking though. We do need a balance in midfield which then begs the question, why was so much spent on each of Paulinho and Dembele respectively, if they are often to be found warming the bench?

Would be like us now signing Jackson Martinez and allowing Soldado to sit on the bench.
 
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So in effect, other than add top quality depth, we've not improved the quality of the first team central midfield.

I can understand the rationale behind people's thinking though. We do need a balance in midfield which then begs the question, why was so much spent on each of Paulinho and Dembele respectively, if they are often to be found warming the bench?

Would be like us now signing Jackson Martinez and allowing Soldado to sit on the bench.

That's just Mumorn. Sandro, Dembele and Paulinho will all start when fit imo, in most games anyway.
 
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Villas-Boas wants 'vertical penetration.'

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That's just Mumorn. Sandro, Dembele and Paulinho will all start when fit imo, in most games anyway.

even in home games??? im not so sure
 
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So in effect, other than add top quality depth, we've not improved the quality of the first team central midfield.

I can understand the rationale behind people's thinking though. We do need a balance in midfield which then begs the question, why was so much spent on each of Paulinho and Dembele respectively, if they are often to be found warming the bench?

Would be like us now signing Jackson Martinez and allowing Soldado to sit on the bench.

we saw when Dembele was out injured how much it cost us - having two quality choices for one position would not only negate that loss should one get injured but also decrease their wear and tear over the season. top 4 home and away plus 2 or 3 tricky away games would still see them starting together for 10 games or so in the league and then you have away European games and the later stages of the domestic cups so plenty of games all in all.

i think, as Indainspur says above, the need for a 3 man midfield of Sandro Paulhino and Dembele is not required against many teams at home and several away - games where we should dominate and the extra ingenuity/creativity would be of more use.

whether it is the default middle 3 or not i expect to see one of the trio Holtby Carroll and Sigurdsson get plenty of starts over the season in those types of games mentioned previously
 
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I think Holtby may thrive in the same team as Soldado - think he's going to be a revelation this season after flattering to deceive thus far
 
Re: Soldado - Official! - Medical Completed!!

So in effect, other than add top quality depth, we've not improved the quality of the first team central midfield.

I can understand the rationale behind people's thinking though. We do need a balance in midfield which then begs the question, why was so much spent on each of Paulinho and Dembele respectively, if they are often to be found warming the bench?

Would be like us now signing Jackson Martinez and allowing Soldado to sit on the bench.

First off, we'll just have to see how good Paulinho is and how good a trio he can make centrally alongside Dembele and Sandro. He might represent a significant upgrade to our starting 11.

Secondly, last season people were talking about Sandro and Dembele as one of the best midfield partnerships in the league. The difference in quality when we brought in Parker or Huddlestone was enough to make a cat cry. If Paulinho is "just" at that level and either combination of two of those players can perform at a similar level to Sandro and Dembele then we've made a massive step forward as we know there will be injuries. Improving on players of the quality of Sandro and Dembele is difficult and often very expensive. Just ask Bayern Munich (40m for Javi Martinez), Real Madrid (33m for Illaramendi) or Manchester United (their multiple failed attempts at bringing in a central midfielder this season).
 
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I think Holtby may thrive in the same team as Soldado - think he's going to be a revelation this season after flattering to deceive thus far

Thats sounds more like hope than fact ..
 
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Can't be bothered to look back, but I think a slightly different version of the Killers:

I got goals, 'cos I'm Bobby Soldier
I got goals, 'cos I'm Bobby Soldier
I got goals, 'cos I'm Bobby Soldier
I got goals, 'cos I'm Bobby Soldier
 
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