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Putin & Russia

Craig_J said:
Fantastic Mikey!

To be honest I do feel this forum has more than one Russian plant

I am struggling to understand how a forum whose membership is pretty stagnant and suddenly has additional members who seem to toe the Kremlin line

Like I obviously do not except any disinformation activist to care about GG in the slightest. Who would?

But here we are
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I think it's more likely Farage trying to create clear black(shirt) water from the Tories. And his plebs buying his mad narrative.
 
Craig_J said:
Do you mean you think that’s why there’s people now on the forum who seem aligned to that type of thought?
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Not specifically the new posters. But why a handful of Russian apologists are cropping up in the UK in the last 3 or 4 months, where there have never been any before
 
Craig_J said:
I know this is an old post so if you don’t I worrier, but do you have sources? Any kind of article that says this? I would be interested in reading myself
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I can't find it anymore, sorry. I remember it mentioned Australia potentially pulling out of a deal with US and going with an offer from France instead. Also another example of Norway cancelling some contract. If I find it I'll repost source
 
Rorschach said:
NATO is done. Not officially but for all intensive purposes it is over.

I highly recommend this episode of Snell's podcast where he is talking to Mike Martin about the post-Munich fallout (recorded before the Zelensky/Trump debacle) and what next for NATO

This Gavin Esler interview is good too.
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Listened to this episode this afternoon..
..with Keir Giles...long term observer of the Trump-Russia-European axis (it's 3 months old but all very relevant)

[This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler] Europe’s wake-up call – The coming war with Putin #thisIsNotADrillWithGavinEsler
https://podcastaddict.com/this-is-not-a-drill-with-gavin-esler/episode/185958204 via @PodcastAddict
 
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Bullet said:
You mean Ukraine? Or unjustifiable?
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Forgive me. My phone can be unreliable for typing sometimes

For clarity I mean I find it difficult to change my full support for Ukraine. One small unit does not make the army.

Also the thing about the neo Nazi unit is very old. I would be surprised if they are still alive
 
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It is surprising that Russia's GDP is smaller than Italy's, given the amount of oil they export?
Assuming Rory is correct, would we be quaking in our boots if Italy threatened to invade Ukraine, or would we just go in and slap them and send them packing?
 
Bullet said:
It is surprising that Russia's GDP is smaller than Italy's, given the amount of oil they export?
Assuming Rory is correct, would we be quaking in our boots if Italy threatened to invade Ukraine, or would we just go in and slap them and send them packing?
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If Italy had nukes that could destroy the world 20 times over, then yes quaking. That's all Russia has, but its the ultimate thing
 
Craig_J said:
Forgive me. My phone can be unreliable for typing sometimes

For clarity I mean I find it difficult to change my full support for Ukraine. One small unit does not make the army.

Also the thing about the neo Nazi unit is very old. I would be surprised if they are still alive
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Would this be the Azov battalion?
 
Rorschach said:
Would this be the Azov battalion?
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The Wotanjugend, a Russian neo-nazi political and paramilitary group that fled to Ukraine after being criminalised in Russia, published a Russian language version of the Christchurch manifesto from their Kiev/Kyiv HQ and are currently fighting in the Ukrainian military and being armed by the west.
 
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Silly McSilly Face said:
The Wotanjugend, a Russian neo-nazi political and paramilitary group that fled to Ukraine after being criminalised in Russia, published a Russian language version of the Christchurch manifesto and are currently fighting in the Ukrainian military and being armed by the west.
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I don't know them guys. I must read a bit more about them.

The Azov were originally neo-Nazis who were integrated in to the Urainian military. Put up a good fight in Mariupol before it eventually fell.
 
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glasgowspur said:
Russia reminds me of Chelsea, I keep reading about their downfall, how it's all a mess, a buggers muddle, a house of cards that will collapse in on it's self, never seems to happen.
Feels like a lot of wishful thinking tbh.
Corruption always finds a way.
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Rory making the mistake everyone in the west has always made re; Russia: looking at it militarily through western lens.

Let's take tanks:
- Russian military doctrine is to have tanks that are easy to make, maintain and (at the end of the day) lose. They've got a s*** tonne of sh**y soviet era tanks and iterative upgrades of the same. They get blown up relatively easily but who cares when you can make a new one in about 30 mins.
- western tanks are far better. Technologically advanced, I.e. the challenger 2 has a really complicated membrane based armour that absorbs the energy of even direct hits by anti tank fire. However, if one of them gets destroyed it's basically a disaster as you ain't getting a replacement for ages. They also need really sophisticated maintenance.

We've been sat here laughing at Russian "meat grinder" tactics and that they didn't "sweep through" Ukrsine. That's never been Russian military doctrine. Ever. It's always been to overwhelm and grind down via weight of numbers of poorly trained (but disoensible) troops and cheap ass (but disposable) equipment.

Napoleon and Hitler both came a cropper in believing that Russia's tactic of just throwing endless waves of cannon fodder at you while bombarding the sh** out of you with artillery won't grimd you down eventually.
 
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